[hotlap]

Originally Posted by Realist

Music made it difficult to watch, luckily I made it to the end alive.
Gotta be modded.

Unedited and the awful music made it unwatchable for me

[Blackdevil77]

I actually watched most of the video without sound because of the music. Glad I did that, sounds like it didn't let up.

[396ssrat]

Street racing on a busy city street isn't too bright.

[Artos]

Don't understand how anyone can enjoy listening to that noise pollution...

[Blackdevil77]

Originally Posted by Artos

Don't understand how anyone can enjoy listening to that noise pollution...

Don't even get me started. 99% of the time I have the radio off in my car. I enjoy the commercials more than the music. In fact, I'd rather shove broken glass in my ears than listen to the putrid, blood curdling sounds that are emitted through my car speakers and taint my will to live. This new music is unbearable. It's one thing for the music to suck, but it's at the point where it's so annoying, I can't change the radio station fast enough and my fist ends up going through the radio.

[Crim]

Originally Posted by Alain

That zl1 has definitely had some work done or the Hellcat wasn’t in it all the way. No way stock for stock the Zl1 keeps up in a straight line.

Funny you guys assume a Hellcat is that much faster than a ZL1. They are pretty much dead even and whoever gets the hit will edge out the other. No surprise here.

Originally Posted by Artos

Don't understand how anyone can enjoy listening to that noise pollution...

[Artos]

Originally Posted by Blackdevil77

Don't even get me started. 99% of the time I have the radio off in my car. I enjoy the commercials more than the music. In fact, I'd rather shove broken glass in my ears than listen to the putrid, blood curdling sounds that are emitted through my car speakers and taint my will to live. This new music is unbearable. It's one thing for the music to suck, but it's at the point where it's so annoying, I can't change the radio station fast enough and my fist ends up going through the radio.

I have a close relationship with music & enjoy all kinds where actual talent is involved...I pretty much use Pandora & create my own stations & some Sirius. Cannot recall the last time I listened to any FM waves & bet my stations are not even programed. Guess by far I revolve around the vinyl & cassette era rock like, RUSH, Allman Brothers, Led Zep, Dire Straights, Jimi, SRV, Clapton & the like.


I cannot find one positive thing to say about rap...would rather hear fingernail on the chalk board.

[lt4camaro]

Originally Posted by vtirocz

The widebody (wider rear tires) didn't seem to help straight line acceleration at all. I'm interested to see how close the handling #s were.

Of course it does, the wide body allows for larger tires and a better 0-60 and 1/4 mile et.

[Blackdevil77]

Originally Posted by lt4camaro

Of course it does, the wide body allows for larger tires and a better 0-60 and 1/4 mile et.

Not according to Motor Trends test. Which seems questionable

[lt4camaro]

Originally Posted by Blackdevil77

Not according to Motor Trends test. Which seems questionable

The only way to be sure is if some magazine tests a regular hellcat and a wide body side by side like they did with the ZL1 versus the hellcat

[Alain]

Originally Posted by Blackdevil77

Either he's using the black key or should have the car confiscated. 12.4 with drag radials? Track must of been on Mt. Everest

This is hysterical !!!

[Alain]

Originally Posted by Crim

Funny you guys assume a Hellcat is that much faster than a ZL1. They are pretty much dead even and whoever gets the hit will edge out the other. No surprise here.

I am not assuming. I own both cars. I know what they can do from a roll.

If Both cars are stock, hellcat takes the cake. Of course that’s assuming both of the drivers get even jumps.

Watching these videos and having an acurate opinion is hard to do. You don’t know anything about the cars or how hard the drivers are pushing them.

With that being said......... Take it from me, an automatic Hellcat will walk away from a zl1 !

[Ten4Lou]

Originally Posted by Alain

I am not assuming. I own both cars. I know what they can do from a roll.

If Both cars are stock, hellcat takes the cake. Of course that’s assuming both of the drivers get even jumps.

Watching these videos and having an acurate opinion is hard to do. You don’t know anything about the cars or how hard the drivers are pushing them.

With that being said......... Take it from me, an automatic Hellcat will walk away from a zl1 !

Not too sure about that. Especially “walk away”??. I raced a Hellcat with my 2014 Camaro SS. My SS was a 6 spd manual and he was auto. We raced from a red light first and he beat me but it was very minimal. I’d say he was only about 1/2 of a car ahead of me by 80 mph. Then he tried to race me again from about a 45 mph roll with almost the same results except he was about 3/4 of a car ahead this time. Now I have a 2018 ZL1 A10. Wow!!! This Z is WAY WAY faster than my SS was. No competition at all!! It seems my new Z pulls way harder than I perceived in that Hellcat.

Hellcat and Z are both awesome cars and I would have to agree with others that it is very close between them, but with the edge being given to the Z... especially from a dig.

I’ve heard it said before, the Z is much faster than it FEELS. Hellcat feels like it’s more powerful, but it’s comparable to how having louder exhaust makes your car “feel” faster. The ZL1 has a way of concealing the acceleration by the design of the exhaust, suspension and seats. The only gauge is how it pins you in the seat!!! Good job Chevy engineers!!

ZL1 is precision design. It’s not some raw power vessel that tosses you around like an old dragster... it’s more like a cockpit that’s been custom tailored to the driver!!

[Can'tHave2MuchHP]

Originally Posted by Alain

I am not assuming. I own both cars. I know what they can do from a roll.

If Both cars are stock, hellcat takes the cake. Of course that’s assuming both of the drivers get even jumps.

Watching these videos and having an acurate opinion is hard to do. You don’t know anything about the cars or how hard the drivers are pushing them.

With that being said......... Take it from me, an automatic Hellcat will walk away from a zl1 !

All do respect, the numbers do not lie.

You own the slowest iteration of the ZL1 and the fastest iteration of the Hellcat. (In straight line speed comparison).

The A10 ZL1 out 0-60s, out 1/4 miles, out 1/2 miles and out top speeds the Challenger Hellcat in all magazine and factory tests. There are more owners in the 10s with stock hellcats on DRs than stock ZL1s, yes. The TM is pretty limiting on the ZL1. Once the TM is out of play (above 40-50 MPH) whichever one gets the jump, wins.

Also, I've driven a LOT of cars including a Challenger Hellcat. They "Feel" WAYYY more insane than they actually are. The 275 rear tire, very un-intrusive traction management and stability control, and the size of the car = a very "insane" feeling and somewhat scarier acceleration. The ZL1 on the other hand is smooth, little drama, and clean. It feels like a less powerful, more consistent pull. Whereas the Hellcat feels like a violent shove in the back.

Neither car blows the door off or "walks" away from the other. Now if you have an ZLE vs A8 Hellcat then of course it will go Hellcat as M6 + the drag just can't compete. Difference is the ZLE can take the turn at the end of the drag strip at it's trap speed and the Hellcat can't, LOL.