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Probably go this route as well but for my Camaro I can rebuild the engine if it ends up something happening to it since my car is a keeper. There are a lot of places opening up with options of engine rebuilds etc in my area because they expect demand for buyers to be high due to people not wanting EVs. The Mustang will be the new guy to hang out with the Camaro if I get one. |
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07-19-2022, 05:54 PM | #101 |
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07-19-2022, 06:58 PM | #102 |
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I wonder if this somewhat represents what the inside of a EV Camaro would like since the Blazer seems to be the SUV version of the Camaro from a styling perspective.
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a4...ealed-details/
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Also,I’ve seen the data, the thermal mass of a battery takes much longer to get cold than the actual temperature drop. All of this is in consideration by the OEMs.
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And seriously, every article or study I’ve read shopped EVs have an environmental (read that as all in including mining lithium) break even of3 to 4 years. And most new EVs have better range than my LaCrosse did. It had an 11 gallon tank so a 320 mile EV is just fine. Time to charge? On a fast charger you are at 80% in 18 minutes. That’s the remains weak link but it’s only getting better. Other than the NVH issue, in 10 years an EV will absolutely be the better choice. But you and I will have to get over some big paradigms. From a tech standpoint and as an engineer I see EVs as the better alternative. But I’m not lined up to buy one just yet.
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Gimme looks, performance over a Tesla, and yeah I'd likely be on board. Especially if range & charging are a non/lesser issue.
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07-20-2022, 06:08 AM | #106 |
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Often enough and a long drive to go to the beach, or visit family/friends is made even longer. And as for a daily driver, I don't live in a metro area of some big city, so a hybrid is what I'll go to as it's a better option for where I live.
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07-20-2022, 06:36 AM | #107 |
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I think the little Buick SUV's are straight from China. If gm ev's are like that not interested.
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07-20-2022, 12:36 PM | #109 |
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I would buy a hybrid Blazer. In my opinion where I live we are not ready for all E yet. I do like the new E-Blazer.
But no E Camaro for me. The thunder and vibration makes the ride and the LT1 gets 36 mpg cruising.
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I'm all for a good cruiser, but realistically that 36 mpg is more like 30-31, assuming you don't push it beyond 60-65 mph...
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And seriously, every article or study I’ve read shopped EVs have an environmental (read that as all in including mining lithium) break even of3 to 4 years. And most new EVs have better range than my LaCrosse did. It had an 11 gallon tank so a 320 mile EV is just fine. Time to charge? On a fast charger you are at 80% in 18 minutes. That’s the remains weak link but it’s only getting better./QUOTE What on earth does a "3 to 4 year break even period" even mean to people whose drinking and irrigation water supplies are threatened by a mining process that turns 2,000 gallons of water into toxic sludge for every pound of lithium produced? Pure meaningless environmentalist bafflegab. The only reason BEV's can be successfully sold as an environmental savior is because the environmental destruction their manufacturing causes occurs out of sight of the affluent class of people buying them. |
07-20-2022, 11:48 PM | #112 | |
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Unfortunately, there is little to no sincere academic effort being put into honestly understanding the environmental impact of building an EV and any study that occurs will omit any data that is inconvenient to the desired result. We live in a time where science is anything you like with omission of anything that disagrees, and questioning that is a micro aggression. Given recent events, anything that accurately and truthfully identifies anything negative about EV construction and material sourcing will soon be defined as "misinformation" that can cause "EV purchase hesitancy". I wish I was kidding. When we mandate what should be a free-market force, we see escalation due to the predicted supply shortage for an unnatural demand increase. I fear that desirable EV will become even less attainable, not more, for most of the population as costs continue to increase with inflation and actual purchase power plummets. Then shaming of those who haven't agreed to comply will likely follow (also a recent trend). Even today, the affluent are publicly mocking people complaining about gas prices because they can A. afford any gas price and B. can afford (and may own) a luxury EV. Hell, the Kia EV6 starts at $40k and goes to $60k... for a Kia. Even the carbon footprint of shipping that vehicle across the ocean is not trivial... and isn't well documented because we tend to ignore the MASSIVE pollution that international shipping causes. We're moving away from the purpose of this forum as this is more of an off-topic discussion. But we've come this far, so why not let it roll till mods close/delete the thread! /rant
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