[Mike818]

Disclaimer: I know nothing about the specifics of the ZL1/ZLE electronics / systems.

Not even taking driving dynamics into consideration at all, I have to assume if you just unplugged the magride shocks on the ZL1 it's going to freak out the cars systems. Triggering diagnostic codes and maybe even a limp mode. So just that alone leads me to believe there must be different software running on some of the systems on the ZLE.

[clg82]

Originally Posted by Mike818

Disclaimer: I know nothing about the specifics of the ZL1/ZLE electronics / systems.

Not even taking driving dynamics into consideration at all, I have to assume if you just unplugged the magride shocks on the ZL1 it's going to freak out the cars systems. Triggering diagnostic codes and maybe even a limp mode. So just that alone leads me to believe there must be different software running on some of the systems on the ZLE.

Yes, you can replace the stock Magnaride suspension with the 1LE dampers. It just takes a pigtail that you have to plugin so the car "thinks" magride is still installed. But I don't think there is any difference between "touring, sport, track etc" between the two. I'm still waiting on the person that mentioned that to let us know how there is a difference.

[Mike818]

Tricking the computer isn't really a solution I'm interested in for this use case.

Maybe it works fine, but the amount of time and effort I would need to put in to validate that and be "trust it with my life" comfortable is not something I want to have to do.

[MainStMafia]

I started with a 98 Z28, then ordered a 2010 2SS, 2012 ZL1, 2017 ZL1, 2018 ZL1 1LE, then I veered off and ordered a 2023 Cadillac CT5-V Blackwing. Today I ordered a 2024 Panther ZL1. The last had powdered Camaro. Wish me luck bros and brosettes!!

[Vigilante375]

Originally Posted by clg82

Yes, you can replace the stock Magnaride suspension with the 1LE dampers. It just takes a pigtail that you have to plugin so the car "thinks" magride is still installed. But I don't think there is any difference between "touring, sport, track etc" between the two. I'm still waiting on the person that mentioned that to let us know how there is a difference.

I'll be that person. There is a difference between all 3. You can actually feel the car slightly bounce every so slightly when changing between all 3.

There are a couple of bumps in the road from an underground pipe or something by my house and I can feel the car bounce more in Tour, slightly bounce in Sport and the car is very stiff in Track. Going 35 mph as well.

Anyone, with a non 1LE ZL1, can do the same as you can find a spot that'll make both tires roll over the bump in the road at the same time.

I even left the car in my street driving mode one track session, suspension in tour, steering in tour and exhaust in track. The car had more "dip" when you brake and had more roll when turning. Obviously I felt the difference and didn't realize I wasn't in PTM until the cool down back into the pits.

If you track your car, put the suspension into tour one session then track the next. I 100% guarantee you'll feel the difference.

[sactownbwoy]

Originally Posted by Vigilante375

I'll be that person. There is a difference between all 3. You can actually feel the car slightly bounce every so slightly when changing between all 3.

There are a couple of bumps in the road from an underground pipe or something by my house and I can feel the car bounce more in Tour, slightly bounce in Sport and the car is very stiff in Track. Going 35 mph as well.

Anyone, with a non 1LE ZL1, can do the same as you can find a spot that'll make both tires roll over the bump in the road at the same time.

I even left the car in my street driving mode one track session, suspension in tour, steering in tour and exhaust in track. The car had more "dip" when you brake and had more roll when turning. Obviously I felt the difference and didn't realize I wasn't in PTM until the cool down back into the pits.

If you track your car, put the suspension into tour one session then track the next. I 100% guarantee you'll feel the difference.

I think he was asking if the DSSV respond the same when placed on a magride equipped car.


I have a ZLE and the various modes, tour, track, sport, do nothing for the suspension for the DSSV. They have one setting from the factory and changing the modes does nothing for the suspension.

[Mike818]

The question is are a ZLE's systems ( stability control, ABS, etc ) programmed or calibrated differently than a ZL1.

The main focus of that discussion has shifted to the DSSV suspension, but there are other differences.

[Z06ZLE]

Originally Posted by MainStMafia

I started with a 98 Z28, then ordered a 2010 2SS, 2012 ZL1, 2017 ZL1, 2018 ZL1 1LE, then I veered off and ordered a 2023 Cadillac CT5-V Blackwing. Today I ordered a 2024 Panther ZL1. The last had powdered Camaro. Wish me luck bros and brosettes!!

You, sir, are living the dream!! How did you manage to get in on the CE ZL1’s? Those seemed to be all spoken for before anybody (that I know, at least) was able to even get an order in!

[Z06ZLE]

Originally Posted by sactownbwoy

I have a ZLE and the various modes, tour, track, sport, do nothing for the suspension for the DSSV. They have one setting from the factory and changing the modes does nothing for the suspension.

What is the purpose of the selectable modes in the ZLE, considering there is only one setting for the dampers? Steering weight and exhaust sound?

[Vigilante375]

Originally Posted by sactownbwoy

I think he was asking if the DSSV respond the same when placed on a magride equipped car.


I have a ZLE and the various modes, tour, track, sport, do nothing for the suspension for the DSSV. They have one setting from the factory and changing the modes does nothing for the suspension.

The ZL1 1LE doesn't have a setting for suspension in the menu or does it? I thought I've seen videos on the past and that was missing.

And yes, I will agree that those that change out the MRS for DSSV in a non 1LE then the suspension setting will do nothing at all since its just connected to a pigtail. Only adjustment you can make on the 1LE DDSV is the fronts ride height and that's manually done.

[Zl1+911]

Originally Posted by Vigilante375

The ZL1 1LE doesn't have a setting for suspension in the menu or does it? I thought I've seen videos on the past and that was missing.

And yes, I will agree that those that change out the MRS for DSSV in a non 1LE then the suspension setting will do nothing at all since its just connected to a pigtail. Only adjustment you can make on the 1LE DDSV is the fronts ride height and that's manually done.

ZLE has the same options and menu as a zl1. However selecting the settings does nothing to the suspension- it does change other things like tranny shift points (A10) and ediff etc.

[Vigilante375]

Originally Posted by Zl1+911

ZLE has the same options and menu as a zl1. However selecting the settings does nothing to the suspension- it does change other things like tranny shift points (A10) and ediff etc.

The suspension settings in the ZL1 1LEs menu is there but it changes the shift points and ediff? That doesn't sound right, that should be the mode selector on the console's job.....but ok.

[HemiDave]

No one is changing out their ZLE suspension for the more "pedestrian" ZL1 Magnaride set up.

Anyone who actually changes out their ZL1 Magnaride suspension to a ZLE suspension should have just checked the "extreme track pack" box when ordering.

That's an expensive oversight...and its still not a ZLE, just a modded, still less capable, ZL1 with no suspension/ electronics warranty.

Carry on....

[Vigilante375]

Originally Posted by HemiDave

No one is changing out their ZLE suspension for the more "pedestrian" ZL1 Magnaride set up.

Anyone who actually changes out their ZL1 Magnaride suspension to a ZLE suspension should have just checked the "extreme track pack" box when ordering.

That's an expensive oversight...and its still not a ZLE, just a modded, still less capable, ZL1 with no suspension/ electronics warranty.

Carry on....

Yes, those that swap out the MRS for the DSSV's should have optioned for the 1LE but people will do what they want. Just like the people who buy ZL1 1LEs and turn it into a straight line only car. They should have saved the $7500 and bought a non 1LE and put that $7500 towards more straight line parts.

I'm sure a ZL1 with only the aero, DSSVs 19" wheels and 3R tires would be just as equally capable as a ZL1 1LE. More expensive route to go than just selecting the 1LE option.