[End User]

Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes

I will agree that for the highest performance, an auto is the way to go,

Not a guarantee.

See my reply to dantemcc.

[JamesNoBrakes]

Originally Posted by End User

Not a guarantee.

See my reply to dantemcc.

If money is no object, it is. The fastest hypercars do not come with manuals.

[Ryephile]

Originally Posted by End User

Get rid of auto rev match and its blasted paddles.

It's a great feature, works brilliantly on the track, and nobody is making you use it. If you hate the paddles, rip them off. If you're going to respond with "but purity!" then head over to SlowCarFast; this car isn't for you.

[weRmany00]

Originally Posted by End User

Not a guarantee.

See my reply to dantemcc.

From Motor Trend

At the big track at Willow Springs Raceway, we had Randy lap a SS 1LE, a ZL1 with a six-speed manual and a ZL1 with the 10-speed auto. The 1LE ran a 1:28.29. That’s a great lap, especially when you consider that time is 0.1 second ahead of the previous-generation Camaro Z/28, which is a former BDC winner and track-focused monster with more horsepower and torque. Next up was the ZL1 with a manual. That stick-shift ran a blistering quick 1:26.16, besting the 2017 Corvette Grand Sport (1:26.28), a 2016 Mercedes-AMG GT S (1:27.04), a 2015 Porsche Turbo S (1:27.17), and a 2017 McLaren 570S prototype (1:27.21). Impressed yet?

Next up was the ZL1 with the automatic transmission. Randy only managed a time of 1:26.48. That’s enough to embarrass all of the European sports cars mentioned above but slower than both the Grand Sport and the manual version of itself. To be fair, Randy felt the tires’ pressures weren’t set correctly, and that the abuse meted out through Turn 8 was heating the driver’s side front too much, causing understeer through terrible Turn 9 . The 10-speed should be quicker than the six-speed, but it just wasn’t happening.

Randy strongly felt there were some tenths left in the automatic ZL1. He worked with a couple of engineers from Chevy and kept adjusting tire pressures and lapping. The result? An unofficial lap time of 1:25.87, recorded on the ZL1’s optional Performance Data Recorder (PDR).

So the A10's unofficial lap time was quicker once they got the tire pressures figured out.

[mjk3888]

Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes

If money is no object, it is. The fastest hypercars do not come with manuals.

They don't come with torque converted automatics either. The GM 8 speed auto is like a 2 speed powerglide compared to the DCT's in all the top exotics.

Again to be clear I wouldn't have cared one bit if the 8speed was an option. Wouldn't have affected me in the slightest.

However you guys have got to stop drinking the kool aid. The 8speed is not a great transmission. Does it get the job done? Sure! Does it help with 1/4 mile and acceleration times? Absolutely! Does improve the track prowess of the car? No.

The facts are if you had 2 cars equipped with the exact same gear ratios one auto and one manual. The auto would be penalized largely because of its extra weight and the slight advantage in shift times wouldn't come close to negating the weight penalty.

[End User]

Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes

If money is no object, it is. The fastest hypercars do not come with manuals.

I was talking about the A10. Hypercars don't come with automatic transmissions. :P

Flappy paddle transmissions are a sales tool. The majority of supercar owners would not be able to drive their car with a manual transmission.

I'd die if I had to drive a car with an automatic or dual clutch transmission.

I keep going back to that A10 ZL1 dude on YouTube who was 10 seconds slower than a M6 SS 1LE at Big Willow. The driver is the biggest performance factor.

[WhyUMad1LE]

Originally Posted by End User

Get rid of auto rev match and its blasted paddles.

You know it's turned off by default, right?

[End User]

Originally Posted by weRmany00

From Motor Trend

At the big track at Willow Springs Raceway, we had Randy lap a SS 1LE, a ZL1 with a six-speed manual and a ZL1 with the 10-speed auto. The 1LE ran a 1:28.29. That’s a great lap, especially when you consider that time is 0.1 second ahead of the previous-generation Camaro Z/28, which is a former BDC winner and track-focused monster with more horsepower and torque. Next up was the ZL1 with a manual. That stick-shift ran a blistering quick 1:26.16, besting the 2017 Corvette Grand Sport (1:26.28), a 2016 Mercedes-AMG GT S (1:27.04), a 2015 Porsche Turbo S (1:27.17), and a 2017 McLaren 570S prototype (1:27.21). Impressed yet?

Next up was the ZL1 with the automatic transmission. Randy only managed a time of 1:26.48. That’s enough to embarrass all of the European sports cars mentioned above but slower than both the Grand Sport and the manual version of itself. To be fair, Randy felt the tires’ pressures weren’t set correctly, and that the abuse meted out through Turn 8 was heating the driver’s side front too much, causing understeer through terrible Turn 9 . The 10-speed should be quicker than the six-speed, but it just wasn’t happening.

Randy strongly felt there were some tenths left in the automatic ZL1. He worked with a couple of engineers from Chevy and kept adjusting tire pressures and lapping. The result? An unofficial lap time of 1:25.87, recorded on the ZL1’s optional Performance Data Recorder (PDR).

So the A10's unofficial lap time was quicker once they got the tire pressures figured out.

Thanks for the updated times.

1:26.16 for the M6 vs 1:25.87 for the A10 on a 2.5 mile track. I'll still take the M6.

[End User]

Originally Posted by WhyUMad1LE

You know it's turned off by default, right?

lol ya

I'll never use it. That's not the point. That it exists at all is the issue.

[Ryephile]

Originally Posted by End User

...I'd die if I had to drive a car with an automatic or dual clutch transmission...

Originally Posted by End User

lol ya

I'll never use it. That's not the point. That it exists at all is the issue.

Wow.

You hate things because they exist, even though they don't impact your life whatsoever?

[End User]

Originally Posted by Ryephile

Wow.

You hate things because they exist, even though they don't impact your life whatsoever?

I can see the useless paddles on the steering wheel.

[Chub2000]

Real race seats that are harness ready from the factory

[JK001]

Red interior, 500 lbs lighter, may be a dual clutch trans for me

[dakota_c69]

Some Garnet Red paint, 2SS trim and my name on the title.