Are prices too high? - Page 7

AN0NYM0US · 03-17-2016, 10:15 AM

Is the price worth it? yes

but for the average buyer who just wants a sports/muscle car I think they'll lean more toward the Mustang/Challenger if they're on a budget and want to save a couple grand.

also leasing wise both the Challenger and the Mustang are cheaper, at least where I live...

GM needs more rebates/incentives but they're not going to release them anytime soon because the car just came out and it's "Motortrend car of the year" so I don't think the price will drop till next year....just my opinion though

rikb53 · 03-17-2016, 10:37 AM

being a previous mustang guy, i complained as well about the mark up & really none of the sales guys here in houston knew why the SS was so much. but, i got a good discount off of 38k and spent 35k, but did some research and found a review on car & driver that explains the disparity between the ford GT & the Chevy SS: The SS model comes standard with Brembo brakes, 20-inch summer tires, and coolers for its transmission, rear differential, and engine oil. It’s the same sort of gear included in the Ford Mustang GT’s $2495 Performance package, only standard.
Made total sense to me. but here in Houston, finding a 1SS manual is next to impossible, so i had to order it. But, totally happy & glad i was able to afford it. now, some better informed Sales Guys would have helped me along - but sad to say they didn't.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 03-17-2016, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by AN0NYM0US

GM needs more rebates/incentives but they're not going to release them anytime soon because the car just came out and it's "Motortrend car of the year" so I don't think the price will drop till next year....just my opinion though

They like to tout their sales without incentives to investors. This, and a higher average sales price within a segment. To the business-concious, this means more profit.

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Originally Posted by rikb53

i got a good discount off of 38k and spent 35k, but did some research and found a review on car & driver that explains the disparity between the ford GT & the Chevy SS: The SS model comes standard with Brembo brakes, 20-inch summer tires, and coolers for its transmission, rear differential, and engine oil. It’s the same sort of gear included in the Ford Mustang GT’s $2495 Performance package, only standard.
Made total sense to me.

That's exactly why.

Thor142 · 03-17-2016, 10:45 AM

Is the price to high for the car? I suppose it's in line with the segment for what you get. Is the price too high for me? Yes :(

nancygrl · 03-17-2016, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Thor142

Is the price to high for the car? I suppose it's in line with the segment for what you get. Is the price too high for me? Yes :(

I agree with Thor's comment ^. Personally the prices are too high for me too

SpeedIsLife · 03-17-2016, 11:07 AM

It is what it is, folks.

The LT1 is around $5,000 more expensive than the LS3, the car now has a more expensive platform, etc. It's not like GM had a choice on making the car dramatically cheaper than it is.

The LT1 would cook itself without the extra coolers, the car would go into limp mode fairly quickly with an automatic without them, etc.

They could had de-contended the 1SS a bit to help it be more affordable by not making RS standard, making the 1SS gauges the same as the 1LT...

Running the smaller center dash screen, etc.

All of those could have taken the price of the 1SS down about..maybe $1,700? That would have essentially kept the SS price of entry down to only a few hundred dollars more than the outgoing 2015 1SS.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 03-17-2016, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by SpeedIsLife

It is what it is, folks.

The LT1 is around $5,000 more expensive than the LS3, the car now has a more expensive platform, etc. It's not like GM had a choice on making the car dramatically cheaper than it is.

The LT1 would cook itself without the extra coolers, the car would go into limp mode fairly quickly with an automatic without them, etc.

They could had de-contended the 1SS a bit to help it be more affordable by not making RS standard, making the 1SS gauges the same as the 1LT...

Running the smaller center dash screen, etc.

All of those could have taken the price of the 1SS down about..maybe $1,700? That would have essentially kept the SS price of entry down to only a few hundred dollars more than the outgoing 2015 1SS.

Also taken the RS equipment off of it (lights, mostly)

raptor5244 · 03-17-2016, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SpeedIsLife

It is what it is, folks.

The LT1 is around $5,000 more expensive than the LS3, the car now has a more expensive platform, etc. It's not like GM had a choice on making the car dramatically cheaper than it is.

The LT1 would cook itself without the extra coolers, the car would go into limp mode fairly quickly with an automatic without them, etc.

They could had de-contended the 1SS a bit to help it be more affordable by not making RS standard, making the 1SS gauges the same as the 1LT...

Running the smaller center dash screen, etc.

All of those could have taken the price of the 1SS down about..maybe $1,700? That would have essentially kept the SS price of entry down to only a few hundred dollars more than the outgoing 2015 1SS.

Funny you said that, based on this thread it sounds like this A8 is cooking itself.

http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=443934

doc212121 · 03-17-2016, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by raptor5244

Funny you said that, based on this thread it sounds like this A8 is cooking itself.

http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=443934

Your not even close, he has an electrical sensor issue, the trans has no issue......can people please be thorough prior to spreading nonsense?

suzook · 03-17-2016, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by raptor5244

Funny you said that, based on this thread it sounds like this A8 is cooking itself.

http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=443934

Calm down. We have ONE case of this.

SVTsupremacy · 03-17-2016, 01:43 PM

I think the car is about ~$5,000 too high...A base Camaro SS is damn near $40,000 out the door with no options

enzia35 · 03-17-2016, 01:47 PM

$37,295...

Karma81 · 03-17-2016, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by AN0NYM0US

Is the price worth it? yes

but for the average buyer who just wants a sports/muscle car I think they'll lean more toward the Mustang/Challenger if they're on a budget and want to save a couple grand.

also leasing wise both the Challenger and the Mustang are cheaper, at least where I live...

GM needs more rebates/incentives but they're not going to release them anytime soon because the car just came out and it's "Motortrend car of the year" so I don't think the price will drop till next year....just my opinion though

FYI, I just got $1000 Rebate off a new 2SS Camaro + Supplier pricing.

raptor5244 · 03-17-2016, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SVTsupremacy

I think the car is about ~$5,000...A base Camaro SS is damn near $40,000 out the door with no options

and you will probably have to order one to get it that way since most of the dealers want to turn a profit and order them loaded including $2000 redline wheels.

I am struggling myself what to do this summer with my current 1LE. I don't keep cars for 10 years so I may just go get a low mileage garage queen 2010-11 Corvette Convertible for $30-35k. Similar performance, proven LS3, less depreciation...decisions.

03-17-2016, 01:43 PM	#95
SVTsupremacy Drives: none Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: WA Posts: 15	I think the car is about ~$5,000 too high...A base Camaro SS is damn near $40,000 out the door with no options Last edited by SVTsupremacy; 03-17-2016 at 03:00 PM.

03-17-2016, 01:47 PM	#96
enzia35 Drives: '16 Garnet Red 1SS Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: College Station, TX Posts: 3,449	$37,295... __________________ '16 Camaro 1SS '18 Miata GT Gone: '01 Camaro, '14 Camaro, '90 Miata

03-17-2016, 10:15 AM	#85
AN0NYM0US Drives: . Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Michigan Posts: 256	Is the price worth it? yes but for the average buyer who just wants a sports/muscle car I think they'll lean more toward the Mustang/Challenger if they're on a budget and want to save a couple grand. also leasing wise both the Challenger and the Mustang are cheaper, at least where I live... GM needs more rebates/incentives but they're not going to release them anytime soon because the car just came out and it's "Motortrend car of the year" so I don't think the price will drop till next year....just my opinion though

03-17-2016, 10:37 AM	#86
rikb53 Drives: 2016 1SS manual Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: houston Posts: 31	being a previous mustang guy, i complained as well about the mark up & really none of the sales guys here in houston knew why the SS was so much. but, i got a good discount off of 38k and spent 35k, but did some research and found a review on car & driver that explains the disparity between the ford GT & the Chevy SS: The SS model comes standard with Brembo brakes, 20-inch summer tires, and coolers for its transmission, rear differential, and engine oil. It’s the same sort of gear included in the Ford Mustang GT’s $2495 Performance package, only standard. Made total sense to me. but here in Houston, finding a 1SS manual is next to impossible, so i had to order it. But, totally happy & glad i was able to afford it. now, some better informed Sales Guys would have helped me along - but sad to say they didn't.

03-17-2016, 10:45 AM	#88
Thor142 Drives: 2014 2LS (traded in) 2015 1SS 1LE Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: New York Posts: 2,132	Is the price to high for the car? I suppose it's in line with the segment for what you get. Is the price too high for me? Yes :(

03-17-2016, 11:07 AM	#90
SpeedIsLife Drives: Current Camaro-less Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Oregon Posts: 3,241	It is what it is, folks. The LT1 is around $5,000 more expensive than the LS3, the car now has a more expensive platform, etc. It's not like GM had a choice on making the car dramatically cheaper than it is. The LT1 would cook itself without the extra coolers, the car would go into limp mode fairly quickly with an automatic without them, etc. They could had de-contended the 1SS a bit to help it be more affordable by not making RS standard, making the 1SS gauges the same as the 1LT... Running the smaller center dash screen, etc. All of those could have taken the price of the 1SS down about..maybe $1,700? That would have essentially kept the SS price of entry down to only a few hundred dollars more than the outgoing 2015 1SS.

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