[1KillerSS]

Originally Posted by Subperfect

Not to feed the troll but, after reading tons of articles because my car is going FI I didn't understand why to go roots or PD. After my car is done I would love to do a comparison with anyone with a maggie blower they are right down the street from my place.

While I agree, that his tone, and method of communicating is abrasive, his statements/opinions are pretty close to accurate. If you take into account the heat soak, and belt slip issues with PD blowers, IMO its just not worth it, for my money I'll take a centrifugal blower over a PD. But thats just my preference. I'm not going to argue the pros and cons. GM has put PD blowers on many of its production cars, with little issues in terms of reliability.

[ADM PERFORMANCE]

We have 2 automatics and 1 standard car coming in over the next few months all for superchargers.

The greatest news of all is that 1 IS A PROCHARGER INSTALL

So we will be able to do 100% comparison of our system using the 1.7 liter supercharger to the Procharger as it comes shipped in the kit!!!!!!!!



I am so excited to do this I cant even sleep at night,may even go on vacation for a few days prior to building all these 2016 Camaros.

Look out world

[Subperfect]

Originally Posted by 1KillerSS

While I agree, that his tone, and method of communicating is abrasive, his statements/opinions are pretty close to accurate. If you take into account the heat soak, and belt slip issues with PD blowers, IMO its just not worth it, for my money I'll take a centrifugal blower over a PD. But thats just my preference. I'm not going to argue the pros and cons. GM has put PD blowers on many of its production cars, with little issues in terms of reliability.

Respect, thank you for the constructive reply!

Originally Posted by ADM PERFORMANCE

We have 2 automatics and 1 standard car coming in over the next few months all for superchargers.

The greatest news of all is that 1 IS A PROCHARGER INSTALL

So we will be able to do 100% comparison of our system using the 1.7 liter supercharger to the Procharger as it comes shipped in the kit!!!!!!!!



I am so excited to do this I cant even sleep at night,may even go on vacation for a few days prior to building all these 2016 Camaros.

Look out world

Yay....Ask and I shall receive, cant wait to see what you guys come up with

[LesserO2Evils]

I recently owned a 2011 Shelby GT500. The car only had a catback exhaust, CAI, upper and lower pulley, and ported blower. Put down 575RWHP and 600lb-ft. While I will never argue that it was USEABLE power, anyone contesting the abilities of a PD style supercharger to make power is either over-the-top bias, or ate up with ignorance.

[E-Ray]

[QUOTE=20171LE;9097310]

The entire FI world recognizes PD blowers as inferior, inefficient, heat soaking junk that OEMs only choose because they are CHEAP.
That's fact, not bias.



Here's a list of Roots, and Twin Screw blowers in production or have been in production. Maybe you can explain your theories to these manufacturers.

What's Available

Twin-Screw
Whipple Superchargers
Model/Displacement
W100AX 1.6L/rev
W140AX 2.3L/rev
W140R 2.3L/rev
W175AX 2.9L/rev
W200AX 3.3L/rev
W200R 3.3L/rev
W245AX 4.0L/rev
W305AX 5.0L/rev
W305R 5.0L/rev
W510AX 8.3L/rev
W510R 8.3L/rev
Applications
Ford
Mustang '03 to '04 SVT Cobra
'05 to '10 3V 4.6
'07 to '09 GT500
GT
Ford pickups '04 to '06 3V 5.4L
General Motors
'99 to '06 pickups
'02 to '06 Hummer
'10 Camaro
Plus hot rod nonemissions kits for Chevrolet Gen I small-block, big-block, and LS engines

Kenne Bell
2.1L
2.6L
2.8L

Applications Ford
'86 to '95 5.0 Mustang
'96 to '04 2V Mustang
'96 to '01 4V Mustang Cobra and Mach 1
'03 to '04 4V Mustang Cobra
'05 to '10 3V and 4V Mustang

GM
'97 to '09 Corvette and LS street rod kits

Chrysler
'03 to '09 Hemicars

Vortech VTS/Lysholm
VTS 2300
VTS 3300

Applications Ford
'07 to '09 Mustang GT500
'08 5.3 pickup
Tuner kits for LS transplants

Roots Superchargers
Magnuson/Eaton TVS
Model/Displacement
MP 1900 cc
MP 2300 cc

Applications Ford
'05-and-up 3V Mustang
'04 to '07 5.4 3V F-150

GM
LS-powered trucks and SUVs
Chevrolet SSR
Cadillac CTS-V
Pontiac GTO/G8
'97 to '06 Corvette
'10 Camaro

Chrysler
Dodge Challenger SRT-8

Edelbrock E-Force EFI
2300cc Eaton TVS

Application
'05 to '09 3V Mustang

[Fenriel]

Originally Posted by 20171LE

You allude to one the the biggest issues with PD blowers. Off idle boost/torque kills traction and parts.
A well designed centri system will allow you to maximize traction.

The entire FI world recognizes PD blowers as inferior, inefficient, heat soaking junk that OEMs only choose because they are CHEAP.
That's fact, not bias.

A guy admitting he owned a Ford in the same post that he accuses someone else of being ignorant,
is ironic and literally made me laugh.
Thanks.

All your other points aside, you keep saying that they are cheaper, and yet procharger is charging less than magnuson and edelbrock for their basic kit. So I'm confused here. I mean EVERYTHING gets cheaper when you mass produce something.

[JoeAyalaM]

You are not confused, less money is cheaper.

I wonder about weight gain between PD and Centry systems, it seems logical that PDs are much heavier considering water intercoolling and all, but by how much? Does it show when driving the car?

[Obsessed 17]

Pd blowers are not junk or cheap! Both are good. Jus depnds on what you want.

So far the only centri kit ive seen available for the camaro pulls air from the top of the manifold. Kinda defeats the point of better cooling

[BlueCamaro6]

I'm curious on dyno comparisons. Did you get the other units installed and tested?

[ADM PERFORMANCE]

Originally Posted by BlueCamaro6

I'm curious on dyno comparisons. Did you get the other units installed and tested?

Busy shop right now,July will be a bunch of updates!

[ADM PERFORMANCE]

Originally Posted by Obsessed 17

Pd blowers are not junk or cheap! Both are good. Jus depnds on what you want.

So far the only centri kit ive seen available for the camaro pulls air from the top of the manifold. Kinda defeats the point of better cooling

That's because the packaging does not allow for cold air to be ingested into the inlet of the supercharger.

Compressing hot air generally makes air more hot air,Intercooler will help though.....Thank god for intercoolers!

[BravoMyles]

Been watching videos of this car all morning. Maaaaaan this is tempting. Probably gonna call Andy tomorrow and talk about some stuff.

[Tmcbigblue]

So much for a bunch of updates in July

[ADM PERFORMANCE]

Originally Posted by Tmcbigblue

So much for a bunch of updates in July

We got sidelined with other important jobs.