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Too many fake scoops.
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12-29-2018, 11:51 PM | #87 |
Fake scoops? NOT a single one of my designs EVER has fake scoops... Sorry sir but what the heck? The scoops on the front on the fenders are actually funcional to evacuate the air from the upper grill, the scoop on the hood is a ram air hood, and the gills are actually funcional to cool the rear brakes... There are no other scoops on my design, unless you are calling the 69 body lines a scoop...
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Why did your survey mention charger instead of Challenger? AMG A45? That's a weird comparison imo. A hot hatch 4 door?
I like the first grey render. The scoop on the red car seems out of place. Maybe too much muscle car at this point. The tail lights are better than the 19 refresh.
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The rear end looks really good!
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why not use a rear facing boundary layer hood scoop?it would tie the car in with chevy tradition in the front and get high pressure air from the windshield base.
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12-30-2018, 09:38 AM | #93 |
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It's interesting to see what you're coming up with and what people's reactions are. I've done this sort of thing myself from time to time in here going back 5 years:
https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showt...hlight=7th+gen https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showt...7th+gen&page=7 As for what you're posting, first I applaud the spirit and effort! Good for you. Now for the feedback. The scoops and gills on the side are unnecessary and clutter up the design. The one in the front fender in particular would probably create a lot of wind noise. The cabin as you've rendered it would not be possible to build. Crash regulations require that the A and B pillars, and to some extent the C pillar provide crash/rollover protection for the occupants. This means they have to essentially be a roll cage. Your A pillar is way too thin; it needs to be a lot thicker. It doesn't appear you have a B pillar so that puts the entire strain on the C pillar which is too far back, and the way it bends wouldn't allow it to function for rollover protection. Take note in the side view comparing your drawing to a 6th gen, how much thicker their A pillar is, the roof (they do have a B pillar even though your illustration doesn't show it) and the wide area at the top of the C pillar which allows for rollover protection to be built in. You're going to have to take that into account on your design which means either increasing the height of the roof, or lowering the side window height which would make it more like the 6th gen. Keep in mind that adding the thickness for rollover protection is going to use up about 6 inches of space inward from the top and sides of the cabin. That's going to reduce the interior space. You have to take into account crash crumple zones in the front and back, to absorb impacts. You're going to lose at least 6 inches inward from the body panels for the passenger compartment and the rear trunk opening. The amount you shortened the back isn't going to leave hardly any trunk space. The rear seats are going to push into the space between the rear wheels, and you don't have much space back there in your design. You also have to plan for enough space for a gas tank, and where you're going to put it. The back has some possibilities. I'd like to see a render where the tail lights aren't on. The front has too much open; especially the area below the bumper. The forward facing hood scoop has to go. The amount of drag this front design would have would kill gas mileage. The wheels seem a bit large for the design; maybe go down a size or two to a 19 or 18 inch? Overall this has a Hot Wheels toy car vibe to it. The one thing I really like is that you put your design into a real world scene, which is something I need to do with mine. What software are you using to do this?
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Make the upper grill section a little narrower like the actual 6 gen because it looks so much better.
I like your design, but the grill makes it look like an old car. The rest of the car has a lot of curves and the front end is really square, I would blend that a little more
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Im still working on the Pillars as well but for now im focusing on the front end and the hood as I need to make it flow, I want to keep that front scoop some how so Im working on it, about the rooft lines and A, B and C pillars as Right now this car is just an exterior render and I realize the rooft will go up to be realistically posible, and for the A AND B pillars, Id like to have them hidden by the windshield/windows that small plastic piece is just a conector over de actual A pillar, I haven't actúally worked on the B pillar (I wish I could just get rip of it but I know it not posible, finally I wanted to reduce the amaro overall size so I could have a small reduccion on the size of the A pillars (a small reduction of 1.5") compared to the bulky A pilars from the 6gen, about the size of the tires they look bigger in the concept car but they are actually the same size as the one on the six, they look bigger due to proportion, I think for a performance car it would be a good idea, but for a entry-level car It could have a 17" rim with out looking fugly like the base rims looks on the current camaro, But overall I need to work on everything you said, thank you for your Amazing feedback!! Btw for my 3D render workflow I mostly use Blender/maya Zbrush, substance Designer, Substance Painter and Marmoset
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Lol? Like why in the world should I listen to a random sad troll on what should I do with my life? You didnt even read a word did you? ..... troll alert hahaha
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You're going to get some hostile responses; that's just the way it is for anything anymore. Unfortunately the people who love the Camaro as it is and bought one, are a vocal but extreme minority. The problem is, they don't buy a new car every month and GM needs to sell Camaros every month to keep the model alive, so either they change something to make it appeal to a wider audience, or sales will continue to decline until they shut it down.
It's clear that performance alone isn't enough to crank up sales, otherwise they'd be selling more. Which brings up the question: just who is the wider market that isn't buying it the way it is? Obviously that isn't the people in here, so their feedback is only going to be marginally useful. However don't let that stop your efforts. I've worked on a 'modern' update to the 1st gen and it's nearly impossible to come up with something that works. Part of the problem is the visual element that helped define the looks of the 1st gen were the chrome bumpers. They helped to separate the upper part of the car from the lower, which gave the upper part a thinner appearance. Without the bumpers that body style looked completely different. We don't use bumpers like that anymore, so it's extremely difficult to create a bumperless design that looks and feels like a 1st gen. This brings up the whole issue of new or retro. The enthusiasts say they want something new, but what they really seem to be saying is a new retro design. The moment you depart from the classic retro elements, they start complaining. The back of your design has a completely different look and feel from the front, and in my opinion is a better start. Try working that feel into the front and see what you can come up with.
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