[big dave]

Originally Posted by Speedy1975

This isn't too inspiring, tires, pulley, bolt ons reasonable DA - 10.78 @126

I thought maybe it was a manual, but no, it's an A10.

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Tires used on the pass: MT ET Street R 305/45R17
Performance Mods (if any): Lower Pulley, Headers, Cat Delete, Exhaust, CI, PT, Meth, and tires.
Category submitted for: Please List the Category or Category # (8) Camaro 2017+ LT4 ZL1 Bolt On's No Internal Mod's (Stock Displacement)

R/T........... .376
60'............. 1.638
330'........... 4.560
660'........... 6.956
660’ mph... 104.87
1000'.......... 9.026
1320'.......... 10.786
1320’ mph… 126.31
Name of the track: Woodburn Drag Strip
Date of pass: 7.21.18
Weather conditions: Include Density Altitude if known. (Optional not required) DA 649

Something is definitely going on. The time isn't too far off in my opinion, but he should definitely be seeing more than 21 mph after the 1/8th. The DA wasn't too bad, but I think he'll see at least another .3 in great air, once he gets the tune sorted out.

[newmoon]

Originally Posted by big dave

Something is definitely going on. The time isn't too far off in my opinion, but he should definitely be seeing more than 21 mph after the 1/8th. The DA wasn't too bad, but I think he'll see at least another .3 in great air, once he gets the tune sorted out.

Why is this time so far off? Lets rule out the questionable hero runs for the A10 and the average is 11:20s - 11:50s, this puts him anywhere from a half second or more improvement over stock. Considering his mods I would think that is right in line with the improvements to be expected. What is his RWHP?

[Fraxum]

Originally Posted by newmoon

Why is this time so far off? Lets rule out the questionable hero runs for the A10 and the average is 11:20s - 11:50s, this puts him anywhere from a half second or more improvement over stock. Considering his mods I would think that is right in line with the improvements to be expected. What is his RWHP?

Nailed it.

[IneedAZ]

Originally Posted by newmoon

Why is this time so far off? Lets rule out the questionable hero runs for the A10 and the average is 11:20s - 11:50s, this puts him anywhere from a half second or more improvement over stock. Considering his mods I would think that is right in line with the improvements to be expected. What is his RWHP?

Unless you compare his similar mods to that of the GM ZL1 drag test car running 10.0 @ 138 He is running meth vs the test car running 110 octane. Seems like a wash to me.

[big dave]

Originally Posted by newmoon

Why is this time so far off? Lets rule out the questionable hero runs for the A10 and the average is 11:20s - 11:50s, this puts him anywhere from a half second or more improvement over stock. Considering his mods I would think that is right in line with the improvements to be expected. What is his RWHP?

Like I said, I don't think his time is too far off...I do question the mph though. 104 mph in the 1/8 is ok, but I think he should be somewhere in the high 120s to low 130s with those mods. It doesn't make sense that he only picks up a little over 21 mph after the 1/8th

[Stefano]

Heat kills these ZL1s and with high IATs they will pull timing and nose over on the big end.

[kttxz06]

Originally Posted by Stefano

Heat kills these ZL1s and with high IATs they will pull timing and nose over on the big end.

U ain't lying man. Can't even get in back to back pulls in these things down here in Houston. It's a dead stick.

[Blackdevil77]

I'm sorry but that tiny a$$ blower was a mistake

[Fraxum]

Originally Posted by Blackdevil77

I'm sorry but that tiny a$$ blower was a mistake

Another nailed it. If I end up keeping this car I might go Procharger. Problem solved and it's a little easier on the drive train at sane power levels.

[17CamaroZL1]

Originally Posted by newmoon

Why is this time so far off? Lets rule out the questionable hero runs for the A10 and the average is 11:20s - 11:50s, this puts him anywhere from a half second or more improvement over stock. Considering his mods I would think that is right in line with the improvements to be expected. What is his RWHP?

You can't discount any time on the list, because even the best driver or the fastest car can run a time anywhere on that list, depending on the conditions and experience with the car. Ask me how I know. That's why you're actually better off comparing these "hero" runs as you call them, because there is going to be fewer variables in those times. You know they were made in the best conditions possible and the driver more than likely got all that could be gotten out of it at that time. The further down the list you go, the more likely it is that something held the car back from it's TRUE potential, whether it be temperature, elevation, track conditions, car setup, driver experience/ability, or any combination of those.

Originally Posted by big dave

Like I said, I don't think his time is too far off...I do question the mph though. 104 mph in the 1/8 is ok, but I think he should be somewhere in the high 120s to low 130s with those mods. It doesn't make sense that he only picks up a little over 21 mph after the 1/8th

I totally agree. Even though he got a good time out of it, I think there is some time that could and would be shaved off, if the car pulled like it should, and I'd think the car should 60 better. Maybe torque management hasn't been removed to let it come out of the hole as hard as it should. Idk. It's plain as day though, that the car isn't pulling the back half and likely even losing some in the front half, even though the 1/8 mph looks good. Even at stock power levels, he should've ran around 130 in the 1/4 with his 1/8 mph. So I'd think the car should run between 132 and 135, depending on the air temp. Maybe better.

[IneedAZ]

Most people seem to be 550rwhp range stock yet 10.9 is the best on the fast list, and most are in the 11.2-11.6 range. I saw a post from a Bolt on SS at 490rwhp run 10.85, so why are our bolt on guys not doing much better with more power. I know the TQ management is killing 60ft times, but with some of the bolt on guys that have posted i assume are tuned and still only running 10.7 range.

[17CamaroZL1]

Maybe they didn't remove TM in their tune? Nonexistent track prep where they ran? They should definitely have better 60s than 1.6s. Big Dave and myself have both managed high 1.6s bone stock on the factory tires, so something's not right. If it is TM, then you'll see a bigger gain than what you'd see just from a traction improvement. So instead of the typical 1.5-2× lower 1/4 ET from better grip, you're likely to see 3-4x or more whatever the 60' gain is, because TM is active for more than just 60'. It may take a trans tune as well to get the true potential out of these cars.

[Speedy1975]

Am I the only person that sees like 65 pages of this thread but seem to be stuck on page 62?

[Can'tHave2MuchHP]

Originally Posted by Speedy1975

Am I the only person that sees like 65 pages of this thread but seem to be stuck on page 62?

You're not alone. Mine is the same way. Not sure what's up...