[Wyzz Kydd]

IF I believed anthropogenic global warming were occurring
IF I believed that electric cars were more environmentally friendly, cradle to grave
IF there were plenty of charging stations
IF fewer electric cars caught on fire
IF they had better range
IF they charged faster
IF our grid could support them
IF I didn't feel I was being forcefed garbage
IF there were no other alternatives
THEN I MIGHT consider an electric Camaro, but probably NOT.

[Gen6cyl]

I think he's got it.

[jamala00]

Originally Posted by Wyzz Kydd

IF I believed anthropogenic global warming were occurring
IF I believed that electric cars were more environmentally friendly, cradle to grave
IF there were plenty of charging stations
IF fewer electric cars caught on fire
IF they had better range
IF they charged faster
IF our grid could support them
IF I didn't feel I was being forcefed garbage
IF there were no other alternatives
THEN I MIGHT consider an electric Camaro, but probably NOT.

Said very well...

[Devstrike]

Originally Posted by Wyzz Kydd

IF I believed anthropogenic global warming were occurring
IF I believed that electric cars were more environmentally friendly, cradle to grave
IF there were plenty of charging stations
IF fewer electric cars caught on fire
IF they had better range
IF they charged faster
IF our grid could support them
IF I didn't feel I was being forcefed garbage
IF there were no other alternatives
THEN I MIGHT consider an electric Camaro, but probably NOT.

Well said especially the one I put in Bold

[Anjilslaire]

Are we denying global warming now? There are plenty of listed reasons why EV isn't ready to replace ICE already.......

[redcoats1976]

are we positive that we are the cause of it though?the earth has gone through many heating/cooling cycles over millions of years.would setting off a few nukes in select locations cause a mild nuclear winter? you know,just enough to drop the temp a few degrees...

[Need4Camaro]

To be fair I think climate change is real... ...noting that I say climate change and not global warming though. I think parts of the world will just receive unnatural weather more frequently. Not necessarily the entire earth heating up.

That stated though, I also think this push to EV's is being largely spurred on by Elitists who have found a way to profit from Lithium in some way or another and has little to do with saving the environment and more to do with de-empowering the American people, restricting travel, and initiate more control over the population and we're not being told the whole truth on not only EV's, but also other sources of Co2 and how EV's alone will not make large enough of an impact to stop climate change as cars are far from the only large contributors to Co2, but they're the only thing we seem to be focusing on.

During the pandemic shut downs, when automobile and air traffic was at its lowest in history, we only recorded a decimal in reduction of atmospheric Co2. Something like 0.1%

[Gen6cyl]

I'm all for new tech to make the i.c. engine more efficient.Sorry pushrod guys.

[Need4Camaro]

Also to be fair, in terms of energy use, EV's will always be way more efficient than ICE vehicles just due to how they work. Far less moving parts, more effective energy delivery.. ..the issue with EV's isn't the technology but rather how they're being deployed when they're not ready for the masses yet in terms of range, recharge times, and pushing someone's legitimate concern over the aforementioned issues as 'range anxiety' just to fulfill your agenda.

[1fastz28]

Originally Posted by redcoats1976

are we positive that we are the cause of it though?the earth has gone through many heating/cooling cycles over millions of years.would setting off a few nukes in select locations cause a mild nuclear winter? you know,just enough to drop the temp a few degrees...

Personally I'm not a climate scientist, but since the overwhelming majority of climate scientist have unequivocally stated that human activity has caused global warming which has been documented for over a hundred years now, I'm going to trust the people who have dedicated their entire lifetime to studying it. And I don't think setting of a few nukes is really a viable solution.

[LeonardS]

Originally Posted by 1fastz28

Personally I'm not a climate scientist, but since the overwhelming majority of climate scientist have unequivocally stated that human activity has caused global warming which has been documented for over a hundred years now, I'm going to trust the people who have dedicated their entire lifetime to studying it. And I don't think setting of a few nukes is really a viable solution.

Scientists also said the earth was flat…..until it wasn’t

[1fastz28]

Originally Posted by LeonardS

Scientists also said the earth was flat…..until it wasn’t

That is how science works, you test the results to ensure that they are correct. There is now decades of documented evidence showing that global climate change is real, I really fail to see how this can be downplayed or worse, completely ignored.

[LeonardS]

Originally Posted by 1fastz28

That is how science works, you test the results to ensure that they are correct. There is now decades of documented evidence showing that global climate change is real, I really fail to see how this can be downplayed or worse, completely ignored.

I was just messing with you. Yes, climate change is probably true, but I don’t feel that electric vehicles are the fix. That electricity has to come from somewhere and we don’t have enough electricity now. They better fix that problem first.

[1fastz28]

Originally Posted by LeonardS

I was just messing with you. Yes, climate change is probably true, but I don’t feel that electric vehicles are the fix. That electricity has to come from somewhere and we don’t have enough electricity now. They better fix that problem first.

I don't think anyone is under the impression that they are the "fix" but i think they are part of an overall strategy to help combat carbon emissions. We've seen the benefits of cleaner energy and cleaner energy gets more reliable and also cheaper year over year. Personally i'd like to see a mixture of wind/solar/nuclear/hydro to provide our energy needs. The idea of digging up rocks(coal) out of the ground, transporting it around the country or world and then burning it for energy is just so archaic and wasteful. I bought my Camaro knowing it will most likely be my last ICE vehicle, and i'll keep it forever if possible. But i'm not opposed to electric vehicles, i wouldn't want to be an early adopter right now, but in 5-10 years as they are in a 2nd or 3rd generation and the tech is fully developed I see them being superior to ICE cars in almost every aspect aside from driving engagement, dynamics, and involvement.