01-19-2013, 12:10 PM | #71 |
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Good thread!
All I want for Christmas is a 6th-gen Camaro that: 1) Evolves from and improves the current design, rather than being something totally new and different. No need for that - the design language in our car looks phenomenal. The only two things I'd change if I were in charge would be to lower the belt-line, and sit the driver lower in the car. 2) Puts performance just as high on the totem pole as design. One example underlines them all....which the concept car looked amazing, standard 20" heavy wheels on a performance model probably hurt some of it's potential. This time around - there's no concept car to impede performance goals.... 3) Includes some of the new Corvette's electronic gizmos and gadgets...namely, the Driver Mode Selector tool that lets the driver turn things on and off. NPP exhaust is great, Mag Ride is great, AFM, and PTM is great! Camaro should, like the Corvette, integrate them all together in one fantastic feature that no-one else has. 4) Offer Magnetic Ride Control on the SS-level performance model (crossing my fingers you call the next-gen SS a Z28 instead). 5) Incorporates a slightly-more driver-focused interior that relies less on wild shapes and individual design elements, and more on function and overall design...again, sort of like Corvette. I promise you this, Camaro team...if you can put out an next-gen Camaro that meets these key personal items for me...I'll buy it. - LT1...or whatever engine is ready for Camaro at the time...I just like all those fuel economy and performance goodies... - Manual Transmission...duh - Magnetic Ride Control - Awesome 5th-gen evolved design that keeps that chopped-roof, low-slung look. - Seating position is lower than 5th-gen - Fantastic segment-appropriate interior (don't need all the leather or real Carbon Fiber like Corvette...but less exposed plastic would be nice) - Driver Mode Selector - Active Exhaust - Black split-spoke wheels - Optional, or standard, super-sticky rubber - Aerodynamic vents/belly pans...things I can point to and brag about. - That new "cheap" sprayed-carbon fiber or Fiberglass body panels - Great brakes - Limited-slip differential, and all the coolers to go racing with. - Priced around 40-45k for all this stuff... I love my ZL1, by the way. Awesome job! |
01-19-2013, 12:15 PM | #72 | |
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The interior of this gen car is at least as good or better than the Mustang's unimaginative one. I really enjoy it, and it's impressed every person that's sat inside, to date...some even saying "wow, this is REALLY nice..." The trunk is VERY functional (ask me how I got a 10x10 tent in there), the opening was just a little on the small side The blind spots don't exist if you adjust the mirrors properly...And the parts of the car that make it look so awesome contribute to that visibility thing: you can't have one without loosing the other. Everyone's entitled to their opinions, as you said earlier...but based on your comments, I can't help but wonder if you've ever driven one? |
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01-19-2013, 12:58 PM | #73 | |
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01-19-2013, 12:58 PM | #74 | |
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Quick lane-changes?? Be aware, man!! (Or use those ridiculously-long side windows to see what's next to you! |
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01-19-2013, 01:08 PM | #75 | |
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01-19-2013, 02:28 PM | #76 |
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01-19-2013, 03:39 PM | #77 | |
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Both cars need an update on the Interior (Camaro Needs the Materials, Mustang Needs the Design [I love both them though]) There is nothing award wining about the Camaro's interior, either car for that matter, that Concept Camaro Interior and Giugario Mustang Interior though |
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01-19-2013, 07:01 PM | #78 | |
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01-19-2013, 07:19 PM | #79 | |
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Sometimes I feel we have unrealistically high standards around here...and every time a member of general public sits in my car and there eyes get big, I'm reassured my suspicions are indeed...true. And the Camaro's interior did, actually...win an award. A pretty big one. http://www.camaro5.com/camaro-wins-b...t-wardsautocom **This post was an exercise in animated gifs...I spend approximately 10x the time locating appropriate images, than I did typing this message. |
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01-19-2013, 07:25 PM | #80 | |
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01-19-2013, 07:29 PM | #81 | |
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01-19-2013, 08:56 PM | #82 | |
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A Camaro was not designed to haul stuff around in the trunk,it wasnt designed so you could go sight seeing,it wasnt designed to be a world class lightweight super car. AND IT SURE DOESNT LOOK LIKE A CARTOON!! It was designed for the kid in all of us that wants to go fast and have a GREAT looking car....sure it aint perfect...but what is perfect? Shit a Lambo you can barley see out of it.
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01-19-2013, 09:04 PM | #83 | |
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To be fair -- pull into an angled parking spot then attempt to back out and tell me the blind spots don't exist. No matter how much you adjust your mirrors, you are 100% blind when you back out of an angled parking spot. Period. OK - Unless you're a contortionist. Or have a 3 foot long neck. Or can see through metal. Or installed your own mirrors. Or installed your own side-view camera system. Otherwise, you're blind as a bat. I can't tell you how many times I've had to back out of spot thinking "Well, I hope no one is coming... and if they are, I hope they're quick to toot the horn." I just hope it doesn't have such a high belt line. The side windows are way too small in height. With no t-tops, the 5th gen hard top will always be a second choice cruiser with my '94 Camaro being first choice. "Cruising" on a warm weather summer day with the portholes-passing-for-windows is absolutely no comparison to being able to pop t-tops off in my 4th gen and REALLY cruise. Sadly, unless they went with a targa top I don't think I'll ever be able to own a hardtop Camaro again - convertible versions only moving forward.
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01-19-2013, 09:14 PM | #84 |
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I don't have Problem backing up. Like the car just like it is. Wife uses it as a DD and has no problems.
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