[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by NOVAtwinLS3

If you really want efficiency and $$ no object you twin turbo the damn thing. More than one way to meet your needs, whether it be Street/Strip, or max effort. Everyone just do you and what your comfortable with and be confident with your decision. if you want to change at a later point....which some do, who cares it’s a journey that we all enjoy! WHO CARES.

Well going TT is debatably considered the best method for forced induction. However the costs involved and the intricacy of a TT setup is enough to make it undesirable by most. The simplicity and cost along with other mods (cam, heads, LTs, etc) as well as it being able to support much more than your stock engine internals can handle is the plus to going the supercharger route. And honestly, under the restraints of the stock internals, a TT is just extra cost for no extra gains. Now if we're talking built block with extra displacement, then it could be beneficial to go with a TT setup as you'll have less strain on the engine as opposed to a supercharger (being engine driven and all). But still tho there are many large displacement blowers out there that can hang with the TTs. There are plenty of guys out there in the 1200 RWHP and higher range with PCs and top mount blowers.

[dbs1]

That's it. I'm building a 632 ci twin turbo monster with 15" wide slicks to put down that 2500 rwhp...and I've got the $100k to do it too!!!

NOT!

[LT4Greg]

Go for it dbs! Lol....

[LT4Greg]

You do what’s best for you dbs and enjoy that ZL1. That’s my advice to you and anyone else.��

[dbs1]

Greg, can I count on you for the first $99k? I'll cover the rest! Hahaha.

[EDFHOBBIES]

Originally Posted by dbs1

And then add the bigger tb, then a big gulp, then a retune, then making sure fuel keeps up, then...

Current setup a few months ago showed 688 rwhp on mustang dyno.

There no reason you can't add Toohighpsi's fuel spacers, injectors, and swap out the DSX pump for a AEM 400lp or larger aux pump to add port injection. even introduce full E if you wanted.

or just port the Blower add the TB I don't think your at the power lever to need a big gulp. you can always make the same power more efficiently with the porting!

[AZIROC]

I like how whenever someone asks about porting the stock S/C, it starts off with great info and others who have done it chime in.... but in the end turns always turns into a pissing match of going to a 2650 or not.



For me, even though I haven't done it, yet, ill be porting my stock s/c. I dont have any desire to go past the 700whp mark as im just wanting to pretty much do full exhaust/pulley/103/tune. I may or may not go E but again, im not looking to go "all out". I have a 86 iroc with a 406 w/ nitrous also in the garage. While it's a fun car, its also the poster child for unreliable. Im not trying to turn my zl1 into that. so, again, for me, just porting the stocker is plenty. I won't be going "stage x" or whatever it is, mostly because I FEEL the possible little I gain doing that vs a reg port,wouldn't benefit since I'm not going "all out" with this car.



That all being said, if my goal is over 700whp (more like over 800whp) then I'd suggest going 2650.

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by AZIROC

I like how whenever someone asks about porting the stock S/C, it starts off with great info and others who have done it chime in.... but in the end turns always turns into a pissing match of going to a 2650 or not.



For me, even though I haven't done it, yet, ill be porting my stock s/c. I dont have any desire to go past the 700whp mark as im just wanting to pretty much do full exhaust/pulley/103/tune. I may or may not go E but again, im not looking to go "all out". I have a 86 iroc with a 406 w/ nitrous also in the garage. While it's a fun car, its also the poster child for unreliable. Im not trying to turn my zl1 into that. so, again, for me, just porting the stocker is plenty. I won't be going "stage x" or whatever it is, mostly because I FEEL the possible little I gain doing that vs a reg port,wouldn't benefit since I'm not going "all out" with this car.



That all being said, if my goal is over 700whp (more like over 800whp) then I'd suggest going 2650.

Actually, it was never a pissing match of the 2650 vs the 1.7. Everyone knows that the 2650 is far and away superior in every aspect. However, the ONLY point I was making is that IF you are absolutely 100% without a doubt and no second thought completely sure that you will be satisfied under the limits of a ported 1.7, then go that route and you'll save a ton of money and be happy.

However, IF there is even the slightest thought that 700-ish to the wheels won't be enough or that the stock blower might have cooling issues and/or you might want more or the potential for more in the future or you want a setup that will be much more efficient, then you should go with a bigger blower from the start. Even tho it will cost more money than a ported setup initially, you'll save money and downtime in the long run. That has been my only point this entire time. Well, that and the possibility that the ported blower will have cooling issues. Unfortunately people these days lack comprehension so it turned into some kind of 1.7 vs 2650 thing or whatever.

[CW3SF]

Originally Posted by AZIROC

I like how whenever someone asks about porting the stock S/C, it starts off with great info and others who have done it chime in.... but in the end turns always turns into a pissing match of going to a 2650 or not.



……

You are exactly right. It ends up that way every damn time because there’s always a 2650 owner or 2 who pops in to tell everyone that porting the OEM blower is wrong and is a waste of money and that their way is the only way that’s right. I guess that’s why Kong and Jokerz went broke from a lack of business. Oh wait…..

[dbs1]

Hahaha. Well that's a bummer. Now who am I gonna have port the lowly 1.7?

Ha!

[Smokin19]

If you ask all these guys here if they did their own work in modding, you might be surprised. Most work is done by shops that give advice on what they should install to meet their goals. Of course they are going to parrot what they have been told by their tuner and of course it's also the best, right way. I myself have had work done by others and relied on their opinion. But, I have also done my own building of engines over the years. I have not done any LS or LT engines and would take advice on those. Keep this in mind when posters give advice.

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by CW3SF

You are exactly right. It ends up that way every damn time because there’s always a 2650 owner or 2 who pops in to tell everyone that porting the OEM blower is wrong and is a waste of money and that their way is the only way that’s right. I guess that’s why Kong and Jokerz went broke from a lack of business. Oh wait…..

Ported stock blowers are not the wrong way or a waste of money...as long as you stay under 700 RWHP. Once you're ready to step up to 800+ to the wheels, then that stock blower is worthless.

[JSH]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

Once you're ready to step up to 800+ to the wheels, then that stock blower is worthless.

Not anymore. I could do Kong's Stage X and surpass 800 wheel, but I'm not sure I want it at this point. My car's a lot of fun.

[Camaro1973]

Originally Posted by JSH

Not anymore. I could do Kong's Stage X and surpass 800 wheel, but I'm not sure I want it at this point. My car's a lot of fun.

It still doesn’t change the fact that the 1.7 stock blower is a heat pump and heat soaks like crazy. That’s the main problem with the stock blower is the tiny bricks.