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Old 06-02-2014, 01:41 PM   #71
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I recently attended an automotive conference in my industry(coatings) and a top exec at ford gave a presentation on how they are significantly reducing weight in there new vehicles, lol..guess not

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Old 06-02-2014, 02:14 PM   #72
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I just have a hard time believing that its not true. If it wasn't, don't you think someone from Ford would have commented on this by now?
I'm from a Ford and I say it's not true.
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Old 06-02-2014, 02:26 PM   #73
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Over 600 posts in three days!? LMAO wow!
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Old 06-02-2014, 02:29 PM   #74
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Old 06-02-2014, 02:54 PM   #75
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This just in...Steeda says the weight gain was "ESTIMATED".

They never weighed any cars.

http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/show...&postcount=591

So we'll see. Still can't believe Ford hasn't released these final specs about the car yet.
Just updated the OP accordingly.
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Old 06-02-2014, 02:57 PM   #76
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Someone on the Mustang site posted this. I found it quite funny.

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That s pretty damn funny
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Old 06-02-2014, 05:20 PM   #78
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Someone on the Mustang site posted this. I found it quite funny.

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Old 06-02-2014, 05:40 PM   #79
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Nope.

http://jalopnik.com/mustang-may-weig...oro-1584907584

Tuner Didn't Actually Weigh '15 Mustang, Has No Idea If Gained Weight

The other day we reported on a rumor from Ford tuner Steeda, which said that the 2015 Ford Mustang would actually be gaining a few hundred pounds over the last generation, contrary to Ford's pronouncement of a weight loss. Now it turns out that rumor might have been full of crap.

On Saturday, Steeda put up a blog post, originally spotted by Mustang6G, heralding their development work on performance parts for the new Mustang, and implying that they actually had one of the new models in their possession. The post has since been changed, deleting this accompanying photo showing a team actually working on an example of the new Mustang:

It's unclear whether or not the post has been altered otherwise.

The post went on to definitively state that the Mustang had actually gained a whole bunch of weight, contrary to Ford's predictions, emphasis mine:

Our work is cut out for us because unbeknown to most Mustang aficionados (and not "officially" confirmed by Ford for obvious reasons), the 2015 Mustang ended up gaining 200-300 pounds in this remake – and with weight being the "enemy of performance", there are plenty of challenges needed to ensure that the 2015 iteration of America's favorite Pony Car isn't left at the starting line spinning its wheels against the competition.

That's a huge bombshell, because an extra 200-300 pounds can have a significant detrimental effect on performance, and would take the huge selling point that the Mustang is leaner than its Camaro and Challenger counterparts away.

But now that huge bombshell of a statement of fact looks like it could've just been based on a big stinking guess, instead. A user on the Mustang6G forums going by the handle of "Seth@Steeda" said that they hadn't actually, ya know, based that weight figure on anything real, but more just about what they think maybe, kinda, sorta, would happen.


In case that's a little hard to read, I've quoted it below:
Based on our experience working with IRS mustangs in the past we estimated what the weight addition will be. In addition current industry trends with new cars show additional weight being added for various new safety and comfort features.

So no, the Mustang did not definitely gain a whole fat guy in weight. Steeda just guessed that, and made that potentially damaging guess public, because why not. Nevermind that many vehicles are actually getting lighter than their predecessors, due in part to more advanced materials and manufacturing techniques.

(And those lighter vehicles including the F-150, which is some 700 pounds lighter than its predecessor, which is made by (*AHEM*) Ford. A company Steeda is very familiar with. So I'm not sure they should just be assuming that what goes in the past goes for the future as well.)

I called up Steeda to confirm their original claim, and to confirm whether or not "Seth@Steeda" actually worked for the company.

I'm still waiting on an official response.

As for the 2015 Mustang's actual weight, we still don't know. Ford hasn't released it, as part of their marketing strategy to slowly, painfully drip out information in an effort to lengthen the news cycle.

Nevertheless, I reached out to Ford to see if they could clear this mess up, and definitively say on which side of the coin the new Mustang would come down on.

They haven't responded yet, either.
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I smell a Rat.....Looks like damage control from Ford to me.
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Old 06-02-2014, 08:13 PM   #81
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I smell a Rat.....Looks like damage control from Ford to me.
The problem with that would be what if the rumor turned out to be true. Ford would look like an even bigger ass. I'm still going with my theory that I posted on the first page in that the rumor was leaked so when the final specs are announced that all the Mustang faithfull will be happy that it only gained 100-150lbs rather than 200-300lbs. The 2015 Mustang will be the butt of so many jokes and criticism if it turns out to be the heavier pony car considering the sh!t talk on the Camaro.
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I thought they were using the the Roadrunner heads with larger valves. Also the cams were bigger on both intake and exhaust sides, no?
New heads are a completely different casting to promote port velocity but they do have larger valves. However I'm pretty sure port volume is not bigger than Roadrunner heads. They are trying to gain low-mid range torque.

No, the cams are only bigger on the intake side. The exhaust side is the same from the specs I have seen.

The main reason I don't think that it will surpass Roadrunner peak power is the intake. It's a long runner intake similar to the old Coyote intake with charge motion control plates. They are WISELY trying to give the car more low-mid range power. They could have easily put a Boss like intake on the car with no charge motion control plates and made 450-460HP but the toque and especially the low-mid range torque would have suffered. Not wise considering the car will most likely gain 100lbs+.
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Old 06-02-2014, 08:28 PM   #82
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Looks like the so-called Pig is shrinking again.
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Old 06-02-2014, 08:42 PM   #83
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Looks like the so-called Pig is shrinking again.
Hahaha .... It would be a Guinea pig! How cute.....
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Old 06-02-2014, 09:56 PM   #84
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Looks like the so-called Pig is shrinking again.
Don't jump the gun boys

Sure...its all rumors and such and maybe the car won't gain any weight, but as I mentioned above R&T have a separate source claiming weight gain, and now Jalopnik has gone and gotten info from their own source, who is once again, claiming a weight gain.

http://jalopnik.com/the-2015-ford-mu...ght-1585109672

This "source" states the V6 will weigh what the outgoing V8 weighs....around 3,600 - 3,675 lbs. You know the V8 will weigh a good 100 lbs more (especially the premium which offers more feature than the V6, so I'd guess a good 150lbs more for it) and you talking somewhere around 3,750 - 3,850 lbs.

That's a bit under Camaro SS still, but not much at all.
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