[Sax1031]

Originally Posted by Cmicasa the Great XvX

If u look at the LINK I posted in POST#1... the price as tested was almost $38K for teh Ford:(

yea the tested car had the $2k California Edition package.

And the base MSRP quoted for the Mustang is definitely way off.

[Unfair]

Originally Posted by Cmicasa the Great XvX

If u look at the LINK I posted in POST#1... the price as tested was almost $38K for teh Ford:(

Not sure how they got it up that high or why.

[Cmicasa the Great XvX]

Originally Posted by Rogue Leader

You can EASILY get an SS into the 38k to 40k range, not only that the base 1SS price is $2k higher than the Mustang?!? How do you laugh at that price????

The Camaro is a premium car in many rights. It boast a much more modern set-up than the Mustang. And tho I certainly have no problem with the Stang using more archaic designs in its execution.. since they are as effective against the competition as the Vette's Leaf-Spring set up is against it's competitors... the Camaro is simply a better ride.

Are you an engineer? How do you know this? The aftermarket has nearly nothing so far for this car just like with the Camaro for a short while. I'm sure given a year there will be plenty of "affordable" upgrades for the 5.0, its a brand new engine it JUST came out.

I'm technically an engineer.. but in a different industry. IT and Computer Technologies are my thing. I stated in my post that "FROM WHAT I HEAR" Ford maxed out AFFORDABLE upgrades to the Mustang's 5.0L...

Also.. I don't kno if anyone else saw this.. but once again they are comparing a 2010 SS to the Brand new GT.. and Chevy could surprise us again

Overall god the fanboyism is strong in this thread. People gotta learn to be humble and realize while yes it may be a tad bit faster in the grand scheme it doesn't mean every stoplight race the Mustang will beat the Camaro. In the end the Camaro IMO has better style, better looks, better engine (more low down torque), and driven right won't be seeing the Mustang's taillights.

LOL.. Dude U are on a GM biased site, that is geared and NAMED after the CAMARO... and U expected less. I would expect the exact same at the Mustang Forum

[Super83Z]

Here is a similar test from Car and Driver

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/..._camaros-video

And the spec sheet for the two cars:

http://www.caranddriver.com/var/ezfl...07775a541f.pdf

[DarthNacho08]

Originally Posted by Unfair

Not sure how they got it up that high or why.

The california special is 2k, with the sync system and who knows what other options on that mustang, price can easily get up that high, go to the ford website and build one and max out all the options and see how high the price can get for a gt

[Unfair]

Yes I see that but, why max it out for a road test?
then say it was 38k...

[Angrybird 12]

Originally Posted by Unfair

Where did they get 38k from?

mustang starts at 29,645

http://www.edmunds.com/ford/mustang/2011/index.html

Because it wasn't the standard GT it was the GT Premimum

Vehicle
Year Make Model 2011 Ford Mustang GT Premium 2dr Coupe (5.0L 8cyl 6M)
Vehicle Type Rear-wheel-drive four-passenger coupe
Base MSRP $33,695
Options on test vehicle Race Red, California Special Edition ($1,995); Security Package ($395 -- includes active anti-theft system, wheel locking kit)
As-tested MSRP $37,600

[cab2g]

The GT Premium with California Package is $35,690. Add the 3.73 gears for $395 to get $36,085. The car may have also came with the $1995 glass roof to make the total $38,080

[Sax1031]

Originally Posted by Skyman 08

Because it wasn't the standard GT it was the GT Premimum

I totally overlooked the fact that it was a premium.

No wonder I thought the base price was way off.

[Sax1031]

Originally Posted by cab2g

The GT Premium with California Package is $35,690. Add the 3.73 gears for $395 to get $36,085. The car may have also came with the $1995 glass roof to make the total $38,080

Their numbers don't add up. I think they aren't listing all the options the car had.

Because they definitely don't list the car as having the 3.73 gear option.

[Rogue Leader]

Originally Posted by Cmicasa the Great XvX

The Camaro is a premium car in many rights. It boast a much more modern set-up than the Mustang. And tho I certainly have no problem with the Stang using more archaic designs in its execution.. since they are as effective against the competition as the Vette's Leaf-Spring set up is against it's competitors... the Camaro is simply a better ride.

What makes the Camaro an overall "premium" car vs a Mustang... Its the same class of cars theres nothing premium about it. The rearend setup is more modern, thats about it. Both carry similar grade engine technology, and heck you can get the Mustang with a touch screen and voice recognition technology that the Camaro doesn't have. You talk like the Mustang still has a Carbureator and bias ply tires.

I'm technically an engineer.. but in a different industry. IT and Computer Technologies are my thing. I stated in my post that "FROM WHAT I HEAR" Ford maxed out AFFORDABLE upgrades to the Mustang's 5.0L...

Also.. I don't kno if anyone else saw this.. but once again they are comparing a 2010 SS to the Brand new GT.. and Chevy could surprise us again

Chevy has already announced the 2011 Camaro, no change other than the HUD, V6 HP and Synergy green SS availability. From what you hear is hearsay, there are no concrete facts to back this up.

LOL.. Dude U are on a GM biased site, that is geared and NAMED after the CAMARO... and U expected less. I would expect the exact same at the Mustang Forum

I expect people to be a bit rational in their comparison and pay attention to the FACTS instead of sticking on technicalities. I expect people to act like adults and avoid the "its better because.... it just is" arguement.

[Angrybird 12]

i feel another Thread Merge coming on

[THE EVIL TW1N]

Originally Posted by wbt

Right...I never mentioned the 3.73 as an option for the Camaro. The point I was making is that this has been the closest apples-to-apples comparison to date given the Mustang had similar rear gear as the Camaro factory 3.45.

It was called out that the Mustang would have been quicker with the 3.73 and the outcome would have been different to which I stated that if you went back to an apples-to-apples comparison by installing a 3.73 in the Camaro, you would wind up in the same outcome.

Not sure how/why that became so convoluted....

3.45 gears for a car that peaks at 5900rpm (LS3) is still more aggressive than 3.73's on a car that peaks at 6500rpm (5.0). To match the LS3's gearing advantage theeoretically the 5.0 would need something like 3.80 gears.

[THE EVIL TW1N]

Originally Posted by Cmicasa the Great XvX

I'm technically an engineer.. but in a different industry. IT and Computer Technologies are my thing. I stated in my post that "FROM WHAT I HEAR" Ford maxed out AFFORDABLE upgrades to the Mustang's 5.0L...

you only hear that from fanboys though so no need to parrott that false info. The 440hp SMS mustang proves that a couple boltons like pullies and catback add 30hp. The 5.0 MIGHT or MIGHT NOT have the same overall potential (N/A) as the 6.2 LS3 but its by no means "maxxed out" from the factory.