[MartinLe]

Originally Posted by Camaro1973

29 degrees of timing is quite a bit. What rpm is that? Also What’s the timing at e40 compared to e50? If it’s only a degree less we’re talking 10-15hp.


Your INJ pw is perfectly fine but pressure is indeed dropping .

Originally Posted by KingLT1

If your IPW is that low I wouldn't be too concerned about the rail pressure dropping some jmo.... I am surprised you are running out of high side pump before injector unless the cam doesn't have a large enough fuel lobe. I agree with above that the timing Seems excessive, many NA LT1 H/C E85 setups don't run that much.

Cool. I was waiting for you guys to chime in. I will recheck the log, but I think I was at 7K (a couple hundred rpms above my target) for that advance. I don't think there was any knock. But, I am not sure (much of the log makes little sense to me). I'm running e43 right now. I will water it down a little and log a run tonight to see the difference. The cam has a 32% lobe. Ted saw the log but didn't elaborate (other than to drop the e to 40).

[swisstyphoon]

Originally Posted by MartinLe

When I spoke with Ted before I installed his Terminator Cam/2650 blower package, I want to believe he cautioned me that the cam or blower by itself would not perform well. Not saying gains wouldn't be seen, just nothing crazy.

I just finished tuning my car with Ted. You might find some of the data helpful. With E50, the car ran 29.5 degrees of timing. Low side fueling held at 70# but the high side dropped to 2400# with IPW of 5.34. The E40 pull saw my high side 2900#, low side 70+# and IPW under 5.

Ted suggested that I keep the E at 40 to be safe. The car is going on the dyno next week. I am going to have them do a pull at E40 and another at E50. I am curious to see the difference.

Your low side is still only the voltage booster?
How much boost are you seeing with that pulley combination?

[MartinLe]

Originally Posted by swisstyphoon

Your low side is still only the voltage booster?
How much boost are you seeing with that pulley combination?

Yup. Just the voltage booster. I will know the boost after tonight. I have been running JRE's channel list - and it does not show boost.

[swisstyphoon]

Originally Posted by MartinLe

Yup. Just the voltage booster. I will know the boost after tonight. I have been running JRE's channel list - and it does not show boost.

Awesome! Can't wait to try mine on E!
30% Injectors and pump is already in the car, will finish the tuning after my vacation.
If you have map and atmosphere you can just subtract the atmosphere number for boost.

[Camaro1973]

Originally Posted by MartinLe

Yup. Just the voltage booster. I will know the boost after tonight. I have been running JRE's channel list - and it does not show boost.

Heheh. Take the map in kpa and subtract your barometric pressure from it. Then use a converter to convert kpa to psi.

EX: 200 MAP - 101 barometric pressure = 99kpa

99 kpa = 14.35 psi

[MartinLe]

Originally Posted by Camaro1973

Heheh. Take the map in kpa and subtract your barometric pressure from it. Then use a converter to convert kpa to psi.

EX: 200 MAP - 101 barometric pressure = 99kpa

99 kpa = 14.35 psi

Thanks for the help. I'm thinking that HP Tuners is not a weather station. So, I need to do this calc at the time of the pull. And, if this is another DA question/statement, please, only one "he". I got feelings, ya know

[swisstyphoon]

Originally Posted by MartinLe

Thanks for the help. I'm thinking that HP Tuners is not a weather station. So, I need to do this calc at the time of the pull. And, if this is another DA question/statement, please, only one "he". I got feelings, ya know

There is a channel for that in HP tuners.
I think it is already added in Ted's channel list, but can't remember for sure.

[MartinLe]

Originally Posted by swisstyphoon

There is a channel for that in HP tuners.
I think it is already added in Ted's channel list, but can't remember for sure.

Thanks. I just Googled it and found the answer. I will take a look when I get home and let you know.

Sorry, Camaro1973. You can't clown me, I beat you to the punch HaHa.

[Camaro1973]

Originally Posted by MartinLe

Thanks. I just Googled it and found the answer. I will take a look when I get home and let you know.

Sorry, Camaro1973. You can't clown me, I beat you to the punch HaHa.

Ha! Ya barometric pressure is def there and I’m Sure Ted logs map .

Baro changes yes, but you do the calc from the log taken.

Btw you can add boost to your graph, just use the math pids. You’ll see it.

[MartinLe]

Originally Posted by Camaro1973

Ha! Ya barometric pressure is def there and I’m Sure Ted logs map .

Baro changes yes, but you do the calc from the log taken.

Btw you can add boost to your graph, just use the math pids. You’ll see it.

Cool.

[Trochoidal]

Originally Posted by MartinLe

Yup. Just the voltage booster. I will know the boost after tonight. I have been running JRE's channel list - and it does not show boost.

Boost it!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8CWwTwgsLoI

[SOCAL.M6.ZLE]

Originally Posted by Smokin19

I can only give an uneducated opinion, others know better but, should you be looking at more of a 38% fuel cam. Further down the road you might need more high side fuel and that would include low side also. The cam should be the right one from the git go because of the cost of pulling the engine. Again, others know better.

I checked with TED and he said the 32% fuel lobe is easier on the pump... Parts are on their way!

[SOCAL.M6.ZLE]

Originally Posted by SOCAL.M6.ZLE

Project Update.... PARTS have been ordered.

The following are on their way...

- JRE Cam Package with valve-train upgrades
- ATI Balancer with 15% OD Pulley
- Synergy 2 gallon fender tank
- Might Mouse WILD Catch Can
- Katech Oil Pump
- Katech Cast Covers and Coil Relocation Kit
- Katech VVT Delete Front cover
- Katech C5R Chain
- Banks iDash Gauge
- Velossa Tech Ram Air Mouth

So here is my current debate.
Because I am trying to maximize the fueling from the cam and JMS only... I am wondering if I even need to port the blower and add the 103mm TB.

Perhaps I install the above, test, tune, dyno... and see where fueling it at?
I think I can expect 725rwhp with the above?

Then later... Add a low side AUX pump and the ported blower and turn up the E content? Thoughts?

So here is my current debate.
Because I am trying to maximize the fueling from the cam and JMS only... I am wondering if I even need to port the blower and add the 103mm TB.

Perhaps I install the above, test, tune, dyno... and see where fueling it at?
I think I can expect 725rwhp with the above?

Then later... Add a low side AUX pump and the ported blower and turn up the E content? Thoughts?



Essentially... are the ported blower and 103mmTB a waste without a low side AUX pump to support them? or do you think the JMS will support up to 750-780rwhp?

[Camaro1973]

Originally Posted by SOCAL.M6.ZLE

So here is my current debate.
Because I am trying to maximize the fueling from the cam and JMS only... I am wondering if I even need to port the blower and add the 103mm TB.

Perhaps I install the above, test, tune, dyno... and see where fueling it at?
I think I can expect 725rwhp with the above?

Then later... Add a low side AUX pump and the ported blower and turn up the E content? Thoughts?



Essentially... are the ported blower and 103mmTB a waste without a low side AUX pump to support them? or do you think the JMS will support up to 750-780rwhp?

I would just do it now if your even thinking about it. Your going to end up doing it anyway and going to spend more.