Homepage Garage Wiki Register Community Calendar Today's Posts Search
#Camaro6
Go Back   CAMARO6 > Engine | Drivetrain | Powertrain Technical Discussions > Forced Induction Discussions


AWE Tuning


Post Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 05-08-2022, 02:08 PM   #57
JSH


 
JSH's Avatar
 
Drives: '20 ZLE
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: Mile High
Posts: 4,195
I've just started down a path parallel to this thread with a TVS2650, LPE BB, DSX Aux., and either +30 or +65, with perhaps the biggest difference being using GT100 versus E.

I plan to call these vendors tomorrow and am wondering if anyone else here has been down this road previously.
__________________
2020 ZL1LE A10.
LME LT4 390 short block, LME CID Heads, Kong E2650, FBO.
15" conversion, MT ET Street R 325/15.
100 octane: 1045hp/1055tq.
100 octane + Meth (1x10+): 1117 hp/1067 tq
JSH is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2022, 02:25 PM   #58
Chrome383Z
 
Chrome383Z's Avatar
 
Drives: 2019 Camaro 2SS
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: McCordsville, Indiana
Posts: 622
Same here. I just ordered a LPE HPFP and XDI+30. Plan on working with Ted and seeing how far we can push E85 with a ZL1 in tank with JMS. Decided I’m ok with mixing hope I can do E60 at 8-9 psi. We will see.
__________________
2019 Shock 2SS A10. 2650@10psi/LPE HPFP/XDI+30/LT4 LPFP+JMS/Soler 95mm/Rotofab, E65, CSP 2” Headers/GESI GenII Cats. MM Wild/GM SG3 suspension/1LE Brakes, Velgen VF5 Wheels/GY SC3. JRE Tuned.
Chrome383Z is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2022, 03:18 PM   #59
ZL14ever
 
Drives: 2018 Camaro ZL1 A10
Join Date: Feb 2022
Location: Dubai, UAE
Posts: 90
IMO, LT4 HPFP running at 2900 psi will give more fuel than LPE BB running at 2200 psi
ZL14ever is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2022, 03:54 PM   #60
Chrome383Z
 
Chrome383Z's Avatar
 
Drives: 2019 Camaro 2SS
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: McCordsville, Indiana
Posts: 622
Quote:
Originally Posted by ZL14ever View Post
IMO, LT4 HPFP running at 2900 psi will give more fuel than LPE BB running at 2200 psi
Can you run the LPE at 2900 psi?
__________________
2019 Shock 2SS A10. 2650@10psi/LPE HPFP/XDI+30/LT4 LPFP+JMS/Soler 95mm/Rotofab, E65, CSP 2” Headers/GESI GenII Cats. MM Wild/GM SG3 suspension/1LE Brakes, Velgen VF5 Wheels/GY SC3. JRE Tuned.
Chrome383Z is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2022, 04:18 PM   #61
Joshinator99
Moderator
 
Joshinator99's Avatar
 
Drives: 2017 Camaro 2SS A8
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: New Ipswich NH
Posts: 6,350
Quote:
Originally Posted by ZL14ever View Post
IMO, LT4 HPFP running at 2900 psi will give more fuel than LPE BB running at 2200 psi
False. The LPE can move significantly more *volume* at those stated pressures…the catch is you need bigger injectors that can supply the engine using lower rail pressures without too long of an IPW.
__________________
2017 Chevy Camaro 2SS A8 Whipple 3.0, Mast Black Label heads, ATI 8L90, Fore triple in-tank pumps, 112mm TB, LPE +52% injectors & BB HPFP, TooHighPSI/Katech port injection, 15” conversion 1066 WHP STD/1027 SAE, 9.10@152.5 (new times coming)
Joshinator99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2022, 04:20 PM   #62
Joshinator99
Moderator
 
Joshinator99's Avatar
 
Drives: 2017 Camaro 2SS A8
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: New Ipswich NH
Posts: 6,350
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrome383Z View Post
Can you run the LPE at 2900 psi?
Yes, but your volume falls off. So it’s just a decision as to whether you need to cover for injectors that are too small or not. With LT4 injectors you’ll need the higher pressure. Once you get bigger injectors you can use lower rail pressure to move more volume through the HPFP.
__________________
2017 Chevy Camaro 2SS A8 Whipple 3.0, Mast Black Label heads, ATI 8L90, Fore triple in-tank pumps, 112mm TB, LPE +52% injectors & BB HPFP, TooHighPSI/Katech port injection, 15” conversion 1066 WHP STD/1027 SAE, 9.10@152.5 (new times coming)
Joshinator99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2022, 04:34 PM   #63
Chrome383Z
 
Chrome383Z's Avatar
 
Drives: 2019 Camaro 2SS
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: McCordsville, Indiana
Posts: 622
Thanks Josh.
__________________
2019 Shock 2SS A10. 2650@10psi/LPE HPFP/XDI+30/LT4 LPFP+JMS/Soler 95mm/Rotofab, E65, CSP 2” Headers/GESI GenII Cats. MM Wild/GM SG3 suspension/1LE Brakes, Velgen VF5 Wheels/GY SC3. JRE Tuned.
Chrome383Z is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2022, 04:57 PM   #64
Joshinator99
Moderator
 
Joshinator99's Avatar
 
Drives: 2017 Camaro 2SS A8
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: New Ipswich NH
Posts: 6,350
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrome383Z View Post
Thanks Josh.
Anytime.
__________________
2017 Chevy Camaro 2SS A8 Whipple 3.0, Mast Black Label heads, ATI 8L90, Fore triple in-tank pumps, 112mm TB, LPE +52% injectors & BB HPFP, TooHighPSI/Katech port injection, 15” conversion 1066 WHP STD/1027 SAE, 9.10@152.5 (new times coming)
Joshinator99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2022, 05:07 PM   #65
EDFHOBBIES
Dyno Show Queen LOL
 
EDFHOBBIES's Avatar
 
Drives: 16 SS & 17 ZL1 Both Yellow
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Houston
Posts: 4,354
Send a message via Skype™ to EDFHOBBIES
Quote:
Originally Posted by JSH View Post
I've just started down a path parallel to this thread with a TVS2650, LPE BB, DSX Aux., and either +30 or +65, with perhaps the biggest difference being using GT100 versus E.

I plan to call these vendors tomorrow and am wondering if anyone else here has been down this road previously.
Yes..

Lpe big bore
Lpe 38% lobe
Fic 30%
Dsx pump.

887 full E.. edelbrock non ported

If you haven't started the build and you want the most out of the parts you should do it this way.

*LPE fuel lobe 42% or Cunningham 43%
*LPE BB Pump
*Fore pump intank return style or
Holley eliminator 200 gph 18.5v/80 psi setup as return style
*LPE or equivalent hiflow check valve and line(the line will be high flow if you ran a new line for the feed)
*Plus 65%

I think you will bust 930 plus on all e
__________________


Kong Ported 2650, Crawford Racing Port Injection, Weapon X 112mm Adapter, NW112mm TB, Livernois Ported LT4 Heads, Lingenfelter GT32 stealth cam, Haltech Elite, and Carbon by Trufiber
EDFHOBBIES is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2022, 05:27 PM   #66
Joshinator99
Moderator
 
Joshinator99's Avatar
 
Drives: 2017 Camaro 2SS A8
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: New Ipswich NH
Posts: 6,350
To back up @EDF’s point, if you’re going to run big power on DI only, you definitely want a +42/+43 fuel lobe on your cam to drive your LPE BB HPFP. I’ve got a shitty +32 cam and it’s definitely a problem as I creep up on 1K WHP.
__________________
2017 Chevy Camaro 2SS A8 Whipple 3.0, Mast Black Label heads, ATI 8L90, Fore triple in-tank pumps, 112mm TB, LPE +52% injectors & BB HPFP, TooHighPSI/Katech port injection, 15” conversion 1066 WHP STD/1027 SAE, 9.10@152.5 (new times coming)
Joshinator99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2022, 06:00 PM   #67
JSH


 
JSH's Avatar
 
Drives: '20 ZLE
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: Mile High
Posts: 4,195
I haven't finalized any orders as of today.

So, based on your suggestions, how about starting with:

TVS2650
LPE BB
32% lobe (installed)
+65
DSX lowside (installed)

I could do a 38 or 42% later if I'm so motivated.

Running GT100 or E85?

Quote:
Originally Posted by EDFHOBBIES View Post
Yes..
Lpe big bore
Lpe 38% lobe
Fic 30%
Dsx pump.
887 full E.. edelbrock non ported
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joshinator99 View Post
To back up @EDF’s point, if you’re going to run big power on DI only, you definitely want a +42/+43 fuel lobe on your cam to drive your LPE BB HPFP. I’ve got a shitty +32 cam and it’s definitely a problem as I creep up on 1K WHP.
__________________
2020 ZL1LE A10.
LME LT4 390 short block, LME CID Heads, Kong E2650, FBO.
15" conversion, MT ET Street R 325/15.
100 octane: 1045hp/1055tq.
100 octane + Meth (1x10+): 1117 hp/1067 tq

Last edited by JSH; 05-08-2022 at 06:29 PM.
JSH is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2022, 07:30 PM   #68
KingLT1


 
KingLT1's Avatar
 
Drives: 2016 1SS NFG A8
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: 46804
Posts: 7,663
32% lobe and XDI +65's with a big bore will get you in the 900-1000whp range on E65 but not Full E. The 32% lobe is the limiting factor. On race fuel you will have plenty.

We threw the C7Z on a local Mustang Dyno yesterday but it wouldn't hook up. Tires would break loose around 4800rpm and there was a 22mph difference in MPH between the Dyno readout and the wheel speed sensor.
__________________

2016 NFG SS A8/Whipple 2.9/Fuel System/Flex Fuel
KingLT1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-09-2022, 08:19 AM   #69
JSH


 
JSH's Avatar
 
Drives: '20 ZLE
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: Mile High
Posts: 4,195
What about these? LPE +52 https://www.lingenfelter.com/product...l#.Ynkv-ejMJMs

I ordered LPE BBDI pump.

LPE encouraged me to go to with their 7.85mm fuel lobe cam.


Quote:
Originally Posted by KingLT1 View Post
32% lobe and XDI +65's with a big bore will get you in the 900-1000whp range on E65 but not Full E. The 32% lobe is the limiting factor. On race fuel you will have plenty.

We threw the C7Z on a local Mustang Dyno yesterday but it wouldn't hook up. Tires would break loose around 4800rpm and there was a 22mph difference in MPH between the Dyno readout and the wheel speed sensor.
__________________
2020 ZL1LE A10.
LME LT4 390 short block, LME CID Heads, Kong E2650, FBO.
15" conversion, MT ET Street R 325/15.
100 octane: 1045hp/1055tq.
100 octane + Meth (1x10+): 1117 hp/1067 tq

Last edited by JSH; 05-09-2022 at 10:23 AM.
JSH is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-09-2022, 02:20 PM   #70
KingLT1


 
KingLT1's Avatar
 
Drives: 2016 1SS NFG A8
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: 46804
Posts: 7,663
Nothing wrong with those LPE +52's. The XDI +65's are less money.



If you are trying to make as much power as possible and want and want all the fuel this go around then get:

XDI +65's
XDI belt driven HPFP
Triple pump low side

Or if you change the cam then get a 42% lobe, big bore, and +65's.
__________________

2016 NFG SS A8/Whipple 2.9/Fuel System/Flex Fuel
KingLT1 is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Post Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:45 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.