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Old 01-05-2018, 11:36 AM   #57
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He was holding back in getting it to the dealer, then the Holidays came, so at the very earliest he got it in January 2nd, probably later.. sooo its probably going to be a week or two before we get any feed back if he does.
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Old 01-05-2018, 12:39 PM   #58
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This is what I'm wondering and worried about... If it were me and they tried to pin it to me I would be forwarding this to an attorney and having the dealership pay for all this...

I hope the dealership owns up to this... keep us posted.

-- What scares me btw is the locking of the car (fuel and brakes) may have been a failsafe to prevent him from causing further damage to the engine after a major oil loss... If thats the case I could totally see the next GM tech just re-tightening the drain plug and topping it off with 6 quarts and calling it "fixed".
Don't know if anyone has replied to this, since I haven't stepped through every page..

The responsibility is on the drivers who got into the accident, especially those in the back who weren't following at a safe distance in order to avoid the accident.

A driver should always assume there are hazards ahead and drive with care and caution. Oil on the road isn't going to cause an accident by itself.
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Old 01-05-2018, 01:48 PM   #59
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Don't know if anyone has replied to this, since I haven't stepped through every page..

The responsibility is on the drivers who got into the accident, especially those in the back who weren't following at a safe distance in order to avoid the accident.

A driver should always assume there are hazards ahead and drive with care and caution. Oil on the road isn't going to cause an accident by itself.
True but then they get an accident lawyer involved and suddenly logic goes upside down, along with your wallet and everything inside of it...
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Old 01-05-2018, 05:59 PM   #60
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Don't know if anyone has replied to this, since I haven't stepped through every page..

The responsibility is on the drivers who got into the accident, especially those in the back who weren't following at a safe distance in order to avoid the accident.

A driver should always assume there are hazards ahead and drive with care and caution. Oil on the road isn't going to cause an accident by itself.
Hmm, a bright sunny day, going into a dark tunnel at highway speeds, and suddenly there is an all black dead car in your lane with an oil slick trailing behind it.... the lawyers will be happy to take that case.
I just hope the injuries arent too serious.
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Old 01-05-2018, 09:56 PM   #61
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Hmm, a bright sunny day, going into a dark tunnel at highway speeds, and suddenly there is an all black dead car in your lane with an oil slick trailing behind it.... the lawyers will be happy to take that case.
I just hope the injuries arent too serious.
Sure, but that lawyer is taking the case to the insurance company, not the driver.
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Old 01-05-2018, 10:48 PM   #62
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Supposed to rev limit at 4000 rpm in park and idle and at redline.
With traction control off you can rev to redline in neutral/park.
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Old 01-05-2018, 11:23 PM   #63
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Sure, but that lawyer is taking the case to the insurance company, not the driver.
If there was a pileup its highly unlikely that his insurance policy will have enough coverage for the collision claims of each vehicle involved and honestly his insurance company MAY completely deny the claim altogether since it wasn't a collision related incident on his part but a mechanical failure that lead to the incident meaning..the attorneys will definitely be going after the driver.
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Old 01-06-2018, 08:46 AM   #64
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With traction control off you can rev to redline in neutral/park.

I've been doing it wrong this whole time
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Old 01-06-2018, 12:35 PM   #65
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If there was a pileup its highly unlikely that his insurance policy will have enough coverage for the collision claims of each vehicle involved and honestly his insurance company MAY completely deny the claim altogether since it wasn't a collision related incident on his part but a mechanical failure that lead to the incident meaning..the attorneys will definitely be going after the driver.
They would go after their own insurance company before they go after OP. And if not them, then they'd likely sue Chevrolet or the party that performed maintenance before they go after the driver. Lawyers make good money for a reason, they're not suing to go to court and waste their time, they're doing it to settle out of court. This case is no where near a home run for them because you can't clearly prove it's the OP's fault. You could blame GM, you can blame the dealer/shop that performed the oil change, you can blame the city for not properly clearing the roads, you can even make a legitimate claim that the suing party had enough time to avoid the oil patch but failed to do so, especially if that driver was going any miles over the speed limit. A smart lawyers won't go after an average Joe like us because they know it will take forever to recoup the money, if ever. It would cost the suing party far more money upfront to hire a lawyer with no guarantee of ever getting a penny.
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Old 01-06-2018, 01:31 PM   #66
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This is just crazy, my thoughts and prayers to everyone involved. I would like to know what GM determines happened... by chance did you get the codes from OnStar or the dealer?
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Old 01-06-2018, 02:17 PM   #67
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They would go after their own insurance company before they go after OP. And if not them, then they'd likely sue Chevrolet or the party that performed maintenance before they go after the driver. Lawyers make good money for a reason, they're not suing to go to court and waste their time, they're doing it to settle out of court. This case is no where near a home run for them because you can't clearly prove it's the OP's fault. You could blame GM, you can blame the dealer/shop that performed the oil change, you can blame the city for not properly clearing the roads, you can even make a legitimate claim that the suing party had enough time to avoid the oil patch but failed to do so, especially if that driver was going any miles over the speed limit. A smart lawyers won't go after an average Joe like us because they know it will take forever to recoup the money, if ever. It would cost the suing party far more money upfront to hire a lawyer with no guarantee of ever getting a penny.
It was the drivers vehicle. Numerous parties will be named, including the driver.

A driver whose car dumps oil all over the road is going to get sued. The onus then shifts to the drivers and his/her insurance company to go after the dealer/gm etc. GM and the dealer have deep pockets, and will likely be named in the plaintiff suits.
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Old 01-07-2018, 06:16 AM   #68
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All this talk about lawyers and class action law suits against himself and GM and then we wonder why he hasn't come back to give us an update

He's probably on his way to Canada as we speak

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Old 01-07-2018, 03:03 PM   #69
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His attorn. probably told him to keep his mouth shut.
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Old 01-07-2018, 08:05 PM   #70
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This is a chevy that was giving out ford symptoms , very odd .
Sorry for your luck man
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