[gajagfan]

Originally Posted by Drm2Reality

People are so quick to add up the options and come up with a grand price. Remember...for each "option" with the 1LE pkg means that is one less part from the std SS. So if std SS seats cost $1500 and the "option" Recaro's with 1LE "pkg" cost $2000...that's only a $500 difference. The difference in cost is what one should be adding for the total 1LE package...not just the option cost.

1LE package will be $5-6.5K.

Your position has one flaw. If you get the optional Recaros on your standard SS, and lets say they cost $2000, you don't get to keep your standard SS seats. GM keeps those for the next standard SS that comes down the line, so how do you see this as any different?

[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by Drm2Reality

People are so quick to add up the options and come up with a grand price. Remember...for each "option" with the 1LE pkg means that is one less part from the std SS. So if std SS seats cost $1500 and the "option" Recaro's with 1LE "pkg" cost $2000...that's only a $500 difference. The difference in cost is what one should be adding for the total 1LE package...not just the option cost.

1LE package will be $5-6.5K.

That can be said for any option the factory installs.

[Waiting46]

Originally Posted by Drm2Reality

People are so quick to add up the options and come up with a grand price. Remember...for each "option" with the 1LE pkg means that is one less part from the std SS. So if std SS seats cost $1500 and the "option" Recaro's with 1LE "pkg" cost $2000...that's only a $500 difference. The difference in cost is what one should be adding for the total 1LE package...not just the option cost.

1LE package will be $5-6.5K.

LPO vs RPO; RPO (MRC, NPP) already take that price difference in to account, and $1000 fro recaros will also take that in to account---LPOs (currently 6-pot brakes) do not take that difference in to account.
I would hope to see RPO 6-pots this go round

[Drm2Reality]

Originally Posted by gajagfan

Your position has one flaw. If you get the optional Recaros on your standard SS, and lets say they cost $2000, you don't get to keep your standard SS seats. GM keeps those for the next standard SS that comes down the line, so how do you see this as any different?

That is exactly my point. If you pay for an option GM is keeping the standard piece(s)...so they are just making more money....when you are selecting an option. Hopefully when they sell a package such as the 1LE package they are only charging the difference in cost for the packaged items. Obviously there will be some margin in there to make more money...but it's not going to be dollar for dollar per the optioned price.

[Bhobbs]

How would they be making more money? They aren't charging you MSRP for the optional parts. You get charged full price for LPOs because you keep the original and optional parts.

[Waiting46]

Originally Posted by Drm2Reality

That is exactly my point. If you pay for an option GM is keeping the standard piece(s)...so they are just making more money....when you are selecting an option. Hopefully when they sell a package such as the 1LE package they are only charging the difference in cost for the packaged items. Obviously there will be some margin in there to make more money...but it's not going to be dollar for dollar per the optioned price.

You are referring to a "core charge" which is already deducted from the price of the option.

[gajagfan]

Originally Posted by Drm2Reality

That is exactly my point. If you pay for an option GM is keeping the standard piece(s)...so they are just making more money....when you are selecting an option. Hopefully when they sell a package such as the 1LE package they are only charging the difference in cost for the packaged items. Obviously there will be some margin in there to make more money...but it's not going to be dollar for dollar per the optioned price.

I agree that it may not be dollar for dollar, but you missed my point. The price of an option includes GM keeping the replaced part. You get the better radio in a car, you pay an increased price that is not the cost of the better radio, it is the cost of the better radio less the cost of the lesser radio (or close to that). This price is different that buying the part out right from GM, like going to the dealer and buying the better radio. That price is higher than the option price. I Think these folks are using the option price for the features of the 1LE, not the over the counter price, so the price people are stating includes GM keeping the standard part, and is thus reduced already. To go back to your example, the $1500 price for Recaro seats already includes the reduction in cost for the standard SS seats. IN other words, the over the counter for the Recaros would be around $3000.

[DannyB]

Originally Posted by Waiting46

Realistically speaking, could they make the 2017 1LE a set of dependent packages? Something like
1LE
(requires:
Recaro Seats
FE4 MRC
Suede steering wheel/shifter)

Which would make the V6 upgraded suspension the "standard" 1LE suspension, not change the steering wheel (or any interior parts) So basically, the only upgrade the 1LE option code actually gets you is the Black accessories, HUD, eLSD and upgraded brakes, which would be about a $3500 option, plus $1000 for the Recaros, $1500 for MRC, $250 for suede.

Im just guessing based on the fact that they didn't announce the V6 as a different option code, but Recaros and Suede are not standard on the vehicle.

That would put a SS1LE car in the $46000 range, and still allow for non 1LEs to reach in to the bucket for FE4, Recaros, or Suede steering wheel/shifter

Not sure what you mean here? The upgraded suspension on the V6 1LE's is the standard suspension already on the SS. Now the suspension on the 1SS 1LE is an upgrade and you haven't factored that in anywhere, just the MRC portion of it.

ETA: I see now you say FE4 MRC, but you have it for cheaper than the standard MRC is on the regular SS?

[JeffInDFW]

For 2015, the Z51 option on the Corvette was exactly $5,000. For that money, you got:

larger wheels
unique aero package
larger front brakes
springs/shocks/stabilizer bars
elsd electronic limited slip diff
diff and trans coolers
PLUS A DRY SUMP OIL SYSTEM

So, I see one thing you get on the Stingray Z51 that you don't get on the 1LE. Dry Sump.

On the 1LE, they add in the Magnetic Ride Suspension as standard part of 1LE. That would have cost you $1,800 to add to the Z51.

SO, lets do some goofy math here for fun.......

$5,000 cost for Z51.
Add $1,800 to add the magnetic ride to that package.
Subtract $1,000 for losing the cost of the dry sump equipment since the 1LE won't have that? I'm guessing here? You guys chime in what you think???

So, in that half assed attempt, I end up with $5,800 as the educated guess on the cost of the 1LE package on the Camaro 1LE.

LOL!!?!?!? What do you guys think? Discuss!

[SS 1LE]

^ Don't forget about the standard Recaros on the Camaro too. Those aren't cheap..

[Waiting46]

Originally Posted by DannyB

Not sure what you mean here? The upgraded suspension on the V6 1LE's is the standard suspension already on the SS. Now the suspension on the 1SS 1LE is an upgrade and you haven't factored that in anywhere, just the MRC portion of it.

ETA: I see now you say FE4 MRC, but you have it for cheaper than the standard MRC is on the regular SS?

I would say that I was rounding for package discounting...but really I was too lazy to verify the actual price XD

I do think that FE4 will be no more expensive than standard MRC, I am curious to see if the FE4 option is available for non 1LE

[SpeedIsLife]

That is a good question though...why wasn't the dry sump system for the LT1 put on the 1LE equipment list?

Wasn't the Gen 5 1LE with the LS3 a dry sump system?

[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by SpeedIsLife

That is a good question though...why wasn't the dry sump system for the LT1 put on the 1LE equipment list?

Wasn't the Gen 5 1LE with the LS3 a dry sump system?

No, it's the standard wet sump LS3.

[KMPrenger]

I didn't read the entire thread, but just the first page mostly.

If its really just "a little" higher...and say its just a $5,000 package....its a steal...and absolute bargain for all that you are getting. I still think that might be optimistic, and we could be looking at 6 or even 7 grand.

But even so, it will be equal or better than 2016 GT350 (base) performance for likely 5 to 8 grand less, and likely not far off 2017 GT350 performance (2017 model is getting track package standard) for likely 10 grand less.