04-13-2016, 05:29 PM | #57 | |
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There is a video out there of a guy comparing his Z06 to his Viper. He's driving his Auto Z06 and raving about the transmission......then when he demos the upshifts it seems like it takes a long time to shift. Definitely a pause between the time he clicks the paddle shifters and when the engine actually upshifts. Is that what you're referring to with the A8 or is it more than that? The A10 in the new ZL1 seems to be lightning fast compared to the A8. I'll still probably go manual, but this thing really has my attention. |
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04-13-2016, 06:31 PM | #58 | |
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04-13-2016, 08:50 PM | #59 | |
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I guess that's why our opinions vary on this. I never read up on all the promises GM made in regards to how fast it shifts or what they said it shifts faster than. My experience is that I drove a few, loved how quickly it ran through the gears and how well it stayed up in the rpms, looked at the performance data, saw that it matches my ls3 c6 m6, saw that I could jump up 7 model years and it wouldn't really change my monthly payment, so I bought it. I've never really been too fond of paddle shifters anyway, and always thought that paddles in a "regular" (non dct) trans were kind of a gimmick anyway to make someone who doesn't know how to drive a manual feel like they can at least pretend, if I'm just being honest. Compared to what I've seen in the past, these paddles do respond a little better than a normal setup in a typical commuter car.....some of those take over a second to respond If the a8 can handle some good power, shift fast (in D of course lol), and be reliable, then I don't consider it to be "awful" or "junk" at all. It's definitely the quickest shifting factory GM trans I've ever driven. I would like to know if there's certain parts that the a10 has that can be replicated in the aftermarket for the a8 to reduce reaction time when using the paddles though. I know a tune will help slightly, but what exactly will the a10 have that makes the shifts via paddles almost instantaneous (at least according to the zl1 test video)
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04-13-2016, 09:38 PM | #60 | |
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Now for my tin foil hat speculation on why the computers would be tuned this way. From a GM perspective, you have to design something that is going to satisfy the bulk of your customers and is interchangeable within the various trims and heaven forbid different models. Even if it is contained within the model, the majority of people who buy a camaro are not going to be taking it to the track,carving canyons, or doing autocross with it. That means they design something for the largest chunk of consumers. Which means the enthusiast drivers get the shaft. /remove tin foil |
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04-13-2016, 10:03 PM | #61 | |
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Making the transmissions shift smoother and slower is a good example of your aforementioned mass consumer point, Susie homemaker doesn't want to feel how a transmission is supposed to shift lol
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04-14-2016, 12:18 AM | #62 | |
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This brings in the part of why preexisting modes exist, (track, sport, touring) that should control these things (again not sure if its one computer using software or switching between a different ASIC for each mode.) |
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04-14-2016, 08:01 AM | #63 |
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It sounded like the A10 is a little more significant that two more gears and revised software.
There will be an in-depth press release and details released sometime in the future. I can't wait to read it. |
04-17-2016, 11:08 AM | #64 |
Got to check out the A10 before purchasing.
PDK I drove was righteous in Porsche. Too bad car was too slow compared to corvettes and camaro so... wait and see....maybe this A10 is as good as Mark Ruess shows in the video.
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04-17-2016, 12:47 PM | #65 |
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Been watching the camaro forms for a long time finally made an account here recently. I have a 2010 RS with the A6 and my biggest regret was it not being a manual (or an SS) so I swore my next car would be a manual but the A10 has got me thinking and this thread is leaning more towards the A10. Such an impressive jump over the A6.
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04-17-2016, 01:41 PM | #66 | |
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04-17-2016, 02:45 PM | #67 |
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i hope the A10 is 10k option....that will make the choice easy. otherwise I think I will go insane trying to decide.
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04-17-2016, 07:40 PM | #69 |
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Like many have said, I've always been a manual guy, but watching that video of the A10 gave me a chub. It was so awesome and has come so far compared of the old tech 4 speeds that gave everyone their bad taste for autos. Now it seems only 6 speeds in a manual is dinosaur tech. The one thing I would dread is how much power it holds, longevity and what's it going to cost to rebuild.
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04-17-2016, 08:07 PM | #70 | |
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Your posts are all the same. Glad to see you changed your SN and avoided eating crow while anyone was watching. How many times have you been banned from this site? TT C6 TT AWD Or something to that effect. You lower the quality of every forum you join, and you've been banned from just about every one multiple times. Why can't you just relax? |
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