[Fraxum]

Originally Posted by mikem2104

both autos in the test
hellcat 0-60 in 3.9, 1/4 in 11.9 @ 125.1
zl1: 0-60 in 3.5s, 1/4 11.5 @ 124

Well, in real life on a prepped track stock auto Hellcats are low 11 cars and ZL1s 11.4 and up on the same track. I know some have run the ZL1 faster but it's rare. No surprise the ZL1 smoked the HC on a road course. Without the built in ZL1 bog I think it would be more even. But as it is usually no contest even without the wide-body.

I wouldn't mind a HC Charger as a daily driver though. As has been said an overpowered couch! LOL Fun.

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by Aliveguy5

How many threads are out there on this site about how Chevy is so far behind the competition? LOL!!!

[lt4camaro]

Originally Posted by mdmoore23

Dodge advertised the Widebody at 10.9 in the quarter. Maybe they should stop advertising their hero runs. Still waiting on a 9.65 stock Demon too.

The wide body redeye maybe , but not a stock 707 horse hellcat on its factory tire.




Thats what I think, that reference is a redeye wide body doing 10.9

[lt4camaro]

Originally Posted by mikem2104

both autos in the test
hellcat 0-60 in 3.9, 1/4 in 11.9 @ 125.1
zl1: 0-60 in 3.5s, 1/4 11.5 @ 124[/QUOTE

And that's what happens in the real world, sure it would have run a better # if let cooled and iced down, but so would the ZL1. Heat soak on the street is the way of life, not a hero run in the perfect conditions.

[396ssrat]

Originally Posted by Blackdevil77

That's an atrociously bad time for the Hellcat. Damn near 12 second run, that's pathetic. I can't help but question results like that. They did better with the narrow body in the 1/4 mile. Everybody knows it can/should do way better than that with that kind of trap speed. I guess the narrow body is just a gimmick and a waste. Doesn't seem to improve anything.

Not surprised by the ZL1 results. 23 second figure 8 is mind blowing. Me personally, I'd take a ZL1 over a new Z06 any day of the week.



Or maybe, they're saving the best for last. Charger Hellcat Red Eye perhaps?

It's Import Trend, I can't appreciate one biased thing they write. I hate that magazine. It is stupid.

[396ssrat]

Originally Posted by Aliveguy5

How many threads are out there on this site about how Chevy is so far behind the competition? LOL!!!

Only on the real track. Sorry, with sticky tires on both cars the ZL1 gets it's ass handed to it by the much heavier Demon.

[BDivine76]

Originally Posted by Boo

The comments about the BMW M4 were hysterical! These BMW guys are driving me nuts around here....they all think they are in the middle of an auto cross regardless of traffic!

So confession time...I am a BMW convert. I had an F10 M5 with a tune that I daily drove...until I decided I was done with the compromise. During my search for the weekend car I thought about and drove an M4. I absolutely HATED the car. Both the Shelby and the ZL1 were miles ahead in about every aspect. Its sounds like crap, can't put power down and rides as though there is no suspension at all! That might be OK of they had the performance to back it up...but they don't. In the spirit of full confession, I do daily drive an '18 5 series. It's got 9K miles and has spent 4 weeks in the shop, but that's another story for a different forum

[hashtag]

Originally Posted by 396ssrat

Only on the real track. Sorry, with sticky tires on both cars the ZL1 gets it's ass handed to it by the much heavier Demon.

Drag race absolutely not auto cross (:

[Blackdevil77]

Originally Posted by lt4camaro

And that's what happens in the real world, sure it would have run a better # if let cooled and iced down, but so would the ZL1. Heat soak on the street is the way of life, not a hero run in the perfect conditions.

I don't think heat soak was much of a factor here based on trap speeds. Looks more like traction/launch. If we saw a full time slip, I'm willing to bet the 60' for the Hellcat was over 2 seconds.

[lt4camaro]

Originally Posted by 396ssrat

Only on the real track. Sorry, with sticky tires on both cars the ZL1 gets it's ass handed to it by the much heavier Demon.

The comparison is between the Hellcat and the ZL1, the Demon is a completely different car with almost 200 hp more than the ZL1.

[lt4camaro]

Originally Posted by Blackdevil77

I don't think heat soak was much of a factor here based on trap speeds. Looks more like traction/launch. If we saw a full time slip, I'm willing to bet the 60' for the Hellcat was over 2 seconds.

It was a wide body with more rubber to help the car 60ft better, I would like to see the 60ft times on both cars myself.

[Alain]

I own both cars.

It's somewhat silly to compare them, they are not meant to be compared.

ZL1 is no where near as much fun as the Hellcat in stop light to stop light/around town driving. The hellcat snaps your neck back EVERY TIME you stomp on the gas, ZL1 doesn't do that.

ZL1 will make you giggle in the turns like a school girl at a Backstreet Boys Concert. Hellcat can't do that, Hellcat feels like wrestling with a bear in the turns.

[mdmoore23]

Originally Posted by 396ssrat

Only on the real track. Sorry, with sticky tires on both cars the ZL1 gets it's ass handed to it by the much heavier Demon.

You can't be serious. The Demon is a cool car, but it was literally built for drag racing, costs $90k msrp, and has 200hp over a ZL1. Plus, the average demon owner won't break 10's. The one I saw at my local track was running mid 11's. That's not handing anything to a ZL1.

[SecondZ28]

Originally Posted by hashtag

Red Eye will be way up on the food-chain. Dealer ADM will probably turn most off for the mean time

People are already purchasing RedEye's for invoice.