[Fraxum]

Originally Posted by hotlap

As long as Corvettes continue to progress, the 20 C8 Z51 will just be another used car.

What we’ve seen of the C8 this far is equivalent to the 2016 SS. Attention getting at that moment but quickly eclipsed. Some wicked Corvette’s are coming.

The CA6 SS has not been eclipsed in my book. It is an almost perfect compromise. It is a somewhat affordable all around performance car that gets mid 30s mpg on the highway.. More is not always more or any more fun. It is an individual judgement call.

The C8 is very, very cool. Just not for me. I could only almost afford one anyway, especially now.

[Fraxum]

I just read on Motor Trend the C8 has the builtin Chevy Bog when you hook. Yikes!

https://www.motortrend.com/news/2020...acing-nitrous/

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by Fraxum

The CA6 SS has not been eclipsed in my book. It is an almost perfect compromise. It is a somewhat affordable all around performance car that gets mid 30s mpg on the highway.. More is not always more or any more fun. It is an individual judgement call.

The C8 is very, very cool. Just not for me. I could only almost afford one anyway, especially now.

I was referring to how the SS never got another review after the SS 1LE came out.

The SS is an amazingly capable car. Fully track capable and runs 12.0 flat in the 1/4 with an automatic. All for $37k!

[BlaqWhole]

I think we are getting a bit ahead. I highly doubt any of these will be a collectible. I also highly doubt they will hold significant value over the 2021 and subsequent MYs. But, 10 or 20 years from now, a 2020 MIGHT be the preferred year because they will have less numbers. And 2021 might be a less sought after MY because there will be more than any of the other years. I someone going to pay more for a 2020? I don't know. But if a 2020 and a 2021 are side by side with similar mileage and similar price then I would bet that a person will take the 2020. Why? Because it is the first year of the ME which is a major design change AND because now there will be much less of them than other MYs.

So maybe I used the wrong language. Or who knows, maybe it will fetch much more money. But I bet for sure it will be more desirable. Or not. I don't know. Maybe just to me. I personally want a 2020. I do not want mine to be a 2021. The price will be the same. But I jumped on this and plopped down a $5K deposit because I wanted the first MY. Not the second. I am sure there are many others who feel that way. And I am sure in years to come there will be many who will feel the same way.

[Fraxum]

Originally Posted by hotlap

I was referring to how the SS never got another review after the SS 1LE came out.

The SS is an amazingly capable car. Fully track capable and runs 12.0 flat in the 1/4 with an automatic. All for $37k!

i see. Agreed and why didn't C&D ever test the SS on the Lightning Lap?

[oldman]

I think condition, options and mileage will drive collectible price, not which year.

[shaffe]

Originally Posted by Lafourche1

Betting on cars being collectors' items in the future is a tough bet. Many of us don't have the 40 years or so of runway needed. Are there enough 12-21 year-olds that will see the 2020 C8 as their poster car or car of their dreams. That has driven a bit of the muscle car mania in the recent years. Either the now older and wealthier ~65 year old sees his dream car or a car that was owned in their youth and now the longing and dollars line up again to drive the collectible stature of the car.

It is my guess that the 2020 C8 will likely not be a collectible item. There are not going to be any of the things that make a car more collectible. There will not be a 427 Cu In fuelee option. There isn't going to be a 4 on the floor option. There isn't going to be an A/C delete option or A/C add option. Each C8 will have a LT2 engine with an 8 speed DCT. Each will have A/C and XX other options. I personally don't think the type of seats and more safety features will make a car more or less collectible.

That's my guess. I don't have the runway to make the bet, even if I wanted to.

That's the best outlook on it.

Part of the reason some of the oldschool cars have gained so much value is exactly like you said, its the 60+ year olds buying cars they had/sought after in their youth. Cars were literally part of lifestyle/culture back then. Today they are appliances to the younger generations.

But the main thing you hit the nail on the head was, you can't order options a la carte anymore. You can't pull strings to get special stuff done. you are not going to build a car that's one of 24 in a certain color with AC and option A B or C.

My old man ordered a brand new 442 W-30 in 1969. Picked it up at the Olds factory in MI. He was able to order in a color that was not available on the 442 or even the cutlass. That kind of stuff doesn't happen anymore

[TheRealJA105]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

I think we are getting a bit ahead. I highly doubt any of these will be a collectible. I also highly doubt they will hold significant value over the 2021 and subsequent MYs. But, 10 or 20 years from now, a 2020 MIGHT be the preferred year because they will have less numbers. And 2021 might be a less sought after MY because there will be more than any of the other years. I someone going to pay more for a 2020? I don't know. But if a 2020 and a 2021 are side by side with similar mileage and similar price then I would bet that a person will take the 2020. Why? Because it is the first year of the ME which is a major design change AND because now there will be much less of them than other MYs.

So maybe I used the wrong language. Or who knows, maybe it will fetch much more money. But I bet for sure it will be more desirable. Or not. I don't know. Maybe just to me. I personally want a 2020. I do not want mine to be a 2021. The price will be the same. But I jumped on this and plopped down a $5K deposit because I wanted the first MY. Not the second. I am sure there are many others who feel that way. And I am sure in years to come there will be many who will feel the same way.

I think you are dead ass wrong here. If we aren't talking collectibility then who in their right mind would take the older car and more people don't want the first model year than do as they usually have bugs that need worked out.

[rocket403]

Just from a consumer perspective and not looking at type of car, if I had 2 years of a car to choose from 1 being the 1st model year or 2 being the 2nd model year i would go with the 2nd year. I never buy the 1st year of a car (update that I did once with my wife's 200 but I took a 200k bumper to bumper extended warranty) and it did pay off when I had to replace the radio.

[TheRealJA105]

Originally Posted by Fraxum

I just read on Motor Trend the C8 has the builtin Chevy Bog when you hook. Yikes!

https://www.motortrend.com/news/2020...acing-nitrous/

Oh yeah @Blaq. Negative DA, tailwind, shop car, experienced driver, DRs and skinnys and still no 10. Not going to get much better conditions than that. Even though conditions don't effect Chevys so they will probably run faster on a 90 degree day in Colorado with a head wind on stock tires.

Disclaimer: I love the C8 and Chevy, just need to prove another point to Mr. Whole. Just came up with a new name for him even.

Edit: someone please please quote me so he can see this!

[NW-99SS]

Originally Posted by TheRealJA105

I think you are dead ass wrong here. If we aren't talking collectibility then who in their right mind would take the older car and more people don't want the first model year than do as they usually have bugs that need worked out.

Originally Posted by rocket403

Just from a consumer perspective and not looking at type of car, if I had 2 years of a car to choose from 1 being the 1st model year or 2 being the 2nd model year i would go with the 2nd year. I never buy the 1st year of a car (update that I did once with my wife's 200 but I took a 200k bumper to bumper extended warranty) and it did pay off when I had to replace the radio.

Both of these exactly

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by NW-99SS

Exactly - and the 2021s, 2022s will also all be exactly the same. It's a new Corvette, drive the wheels off it!

I don't think you see what I'm saying. I'm not saying that there are any differences between the two cars. I'm saying that 2020s are already going to have lower production numbers than was originally planned due to the strike. Now there will be even further delays which means even lower production numbers. The 2021s will have much higher numbers than what was originally planned and will be in more abundance. Rarity increases value. Therefore of all the years the C8s will be available, provided everything from here out goes as planned, 2021 C8s will have much higher units than any of the other years and will therefore have less value. The 2020s might have a higher value because they will be scarce and a 1st year of a new design. I'm not talking about some Joe who just wants to drive a C8. That kind of person will just take the best deal he can get. But someone looking for something rare or rarer will look for a 2020. It would be more desirable even if it doesn't fetch any more money. But whatever. Moving on.

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by Fraxum

The CA6 SS has not been eclipsed in my book. It is an almost perfect compromise. It is a somewhat affordable all around performance car that gets mid 30s mpg on the highway.. More is not always more or any more fun. It is an individual judgement call.

The C8 is very, very cool. Just not for me. I could only almost afford one anyway, especially now.

Originally Posted by hotlap

I was referring to how the SS never got another review after the SS 1LE came out.

The SS is an amazingly capable car. Fully track capable and runs 12.0 flat in the 1/4 with an automatic. All for $37k!

Cars like the 6th Gen SS are much more fun to drive around because you get a lot more good races. There is always a GT, SRT8, etc that will try to run you. I think they represent the max you can get out of a car.

Originally Posted by Fraxum

I just read on Motor Trend the C8 has the builtin Chevy Bog when you hook. Yikes!

https://www.motortrend.com/news/2020...acing-nitrous/

Where did you read that? I can't find it in the link.

I assume they do this to keep the car from going off track.

[Gunkk]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

Where did you read that? I can't find it in the link. I assume they do this to keep the car from going off track.

"If the car dead hooked, it seemed to close the throttle body on the shift between first and second gear, so we dialed in a little tire spin to keep it from doing that," explained Carlyle.

The straight line bog has never been about stability control. It (torque management induced bog) has always been about protecting the drivetrain.