[ST1LE]

Originally Posted by ZRacerLE

I feel like that would sell

Hell yeah it would, that's an awesome car.

[Baldilocks01SS]

I just don't like the interior of the Dodges. Just looks too much like a minivan interior.

[rocket403]

I like the look of that Vert Demon, there are a couple of really good companies that do conversions of the Challenger, here is one and you can see it with the top up.

https://www.motorauthority.com/news/...tible-for-sale

Here is the Demon as well

http://www.droptopcustoms.com/showroom/inventory/

I will stick to the hardtops though

[Chadicus]

Originally Posted by rocket403

I like the look of that Vert Demon, there are a couple of really good companies that do conversions of the Challenger, here is one and you can see it with the top up.

https://www.motorauthority.com/news/...tible-for-sale

Here is the Demon as well

http://www.droptopcustoms.com/showroom/inventory/

I will stick to the hardtops though

I'm not a convertible guy at all. But I have to admit those look pretty good.

[TreedYou]

Originally Posted by whiteboyblues2001

You are completely forgetting about how well a car puts power down to the ground. GM cars (Corvette and Camaro) have been running half shafts that are a different size and thickness such that if you devide one size by the other, you get an irrational number. That way, it eliminates any standing wave harmonic oscilations from the flex in the driveline. It pretty much eliminates wheel hop, giving much better launch traction. Not sure if Ford finally figured this out, but it wasn't in the original S550 cars.

Also, many of the GM cars have an eLSD, which uses the computer to detect slip and re-direct power. It works significantly better than any mechanical diff. The GT500 doesn't have an eLSD, just a Torsen.

Also, the computer changing the damping on the Magnetic Ride Control (or Magneride in Ford speak) helps keep the car flat durring launch. GM has been much better at tuning MRC than anyone else.

Then there is weight distribution, etc...

There are many more factors than just how much power there is and how much grip the tires provide when it comes to launch...

Once Ford came out with the last generation of GT500 (2010-2014), it became obvious to most manufacturers that making power was now easy, getting that power down to the ground and dealing with heat issues became much more important that gobs of power. GM figured that out early, Ford, not so much...

eLSD is pretty sweet, but I can't agree with just the shafts eliminating wheel hop.

I had wheel hop on my SS until I upgraded a few parts.

I've seen many Camaro's and Corvettes experience wheel hop at the track along with the new Mustangs with IRS.


Good thread on here about it..


https://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=316648

[TheRealJA105]

Originally Posted by TreedYou

eLSD is pretty sweet, but I can't agree with just the shafts eliminating wheel hop.

I had wheel hop on my SS until I upgraded a few parts.

I've seen many Camaro's and Corvettes experience wheel hop at the track along with the new Mustangs with IRS.

Good thread on here about it..

https://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=316648

I was going to reference that wheel hop clearly isn't eliminated. It's one of the first things people try to address and there are many posts on it on this forum. Unequal length and diameter half shafts aren't exactly new technology.

Google wheel hop though, the first hit is Wheel Hop: The Dreaded Mustang Suspension Issue

GM's engineering is superior to Ford's, but saying these cars don't have wheel hop is like saying the environmental conditions don't affect the car. Catchmydrift?

[Chadicus]

Originally Posted by TheRealJA105

I was going to reference that wheel hop clearly isn't eliminated. It's one of the first things people try to address and there are many posts on it on this forum. Unequal length and diameter half shafts aren't exactly new technology.

Google wheel hop though, the first hit is Wheel Hop: The Dreaded Mustang Suspension Issue

GM's engineering is superior to Ford's, but saying these cars don't have wheel hop is like saying the environmental conditions don't affect the car. Catchmydrift?

The wheel hop compared to my previous Mustang is much less. My Mustang had horrible wheel hop. It also needed a new tranny at 800 miles (MT-82) so the whole experience was sour.

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by TheRealJA105

Nope Blaq has the biggest mouth so he's right. The sad thing is he has his own fanboys in this thread now it seems.


Deflect and ignore before people catch on that you don't know what you are talking about. Not the first or twelfth time you've used this tactic...

Is that so? Because an engineer just fully explained what I have been trying to tell you now for several pages. And this is your reply. Haha. Maybe you should humble yourself. Because there are clearly more intelligent people trying to educate you on something. You are a very ill informed person. I doubt you have any of the track experience you claim to have. And I doubt you have a Camaro SS if you even have a modern performance car at all. You've done nothing but tried to argue against the most obvious shortcomings of the GT500 even when they have been shown to be very inconsistent. The amount of argument you put up about that car tells me that you are a Mustang guy. Because just like them, you're arguing and trying to defend a car that is well beyond your means and that you'll never have the chance to own. Basically, nothing I say about that car should affect you at all especially since you claim to have a 16 SS that you race. You are laughable at best.

For the record, I am right because I am right. Sure I have a big mouth. But that does not make me any less right. You have a big mouth and so far you've been wrong at just about everything you say. You and your pal TY.

Originally Posted by Chadicus

The wheel hop compared to my previous Mustang is much less. My Mustang had horrible wheel hop. It also needed a new tranny at 800 miles (MT-82) so the whole experience was sour.

My 10 2SS/RS with M6 trans had much less wheel hop than my S550 GT M6 did. In fact I never noticed any wheel hop in my 5th Gen. My GT, all the GTs I owned, suffered. Not just that but the stability and control my SS had was much better. I remember feeling like I was much more planted in my SS. The S550 to me is a horrible chassis and prone to many shortcomings.

[Laststandard]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

I doubt you have any of the track experience you claim to have.

Uhhh.. could you tell us again which road course you were running 180mph at?

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by Laststandard

Uhhh.. could you tell us again which road course you were running 180mph at?

What's the fastest you've gotten your car up to?

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by Martinjlm

Since we were on the subject...


https://www.thedrive.com/news/31741/...uilty-pleasure

Originally Posted by rocket403

I like the look of that Vert Demon, there are a couple of really good companies that do conversions of the Challenger, here is one and you can see it with the top up.

https://www.motorauthority.com/news/...tible-for-sale

Here is the Demon as well

http://www.droptopcustoms.com/showroom/inventory/

I will stick to the hardtops though

As the former owner of two gen2 Trans Ams with Hurst Hatches and +400 HP engines, all I can say is...

Holy cowl shake Batman!

I’d bet these aftermarket convertibles flex and shake like bloody hell.

[crysalis_01]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

What's the fastest you've gotten your car up to?

It seemed like a very straight forward, and easy to answer, question. Why deflect?

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by crysalis_01

It seemed like a very straight forward, and easy to answer, question. Why deflect?

LOL, and what else do I need to prove to you guys? My income? US Citizenship? Car ownership? Track slips? I'm going on vacation in a few weeks, do I need to prove that as well? LOL!! Work history? My diploma? My college degree? LOL! What does it matter to you what I do in the cars I own? Do I seriously ask you guys what have you done in your cars? Do you go to the track? Got any videos? What cars you actually own? Haha! No. I don't. Because I don't care what you guys do or what you guys own. So why do you care soo much about what I do? Life that boring?

[LESS1]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

LOL, and what else do I need to prove to you guys? My income? US Citizenship? Car ownership? Track slips? I'm going on vacation in a few weeks, do I need to prove that as well? LOL!! Work history? My diploma? My college degree? LOL! What does it matter to you what I do in the cars I own? Do I seriously ask you guys what have you done in your cars? Do you go to the track? Got any videos? What cars you actually own? Haha! No. I don't. Because I don't care what you guys do or what you guys own. So why do you care soo much about what I do? Life that boring?

You keep winding them up. Please stop feeding the trolls and they will go away. Besides, you do realize you are cutting into the prep time for their next track day right? No more food for the tools...err trolls, sorry!