Poll- who had a failed oil pump on their Camaro? - Page 42

pauly1119 · 09-17-2020, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by LT4Greg

My plan is to keep my ZL1 stock and not do any mods. It seems to have more than enough hp for my driving habits and I need to get it paid off too!

Same with me, I have a full year left on the original bumper to bumper and added another 4 years of the platinum extended warranty. I really think its limited issue. Most people join the forum after they have a issue, there are tons of owners with zero issues. At least I hope so.

IneedAZ · 09-17-2020, 11:48 AM

Originally when i bought the car 3 years ago i had thought the same about leaving it stock, but now i figure unless there is an unforeseen event, i will keep the car for at least a decade so why not make it how i want. With 14k miles on it, it still looks like it is brand new.

ZX-10R · 09-17-2020, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by L78toLT1

It will be interesting to see if any ZL1`s with suspect pumps make it to six figure mileage without issue. A fairly small but certainly not insignificant number of failures are happening pretty early on.

If it's truly a design flaw it's probably a ticking time bomb. Most of these cars are still low miles (<30-40k). Hopefully 2019+ in the clear

SSallday · 09-17-2020, 07:25 PM

5/18 build date with 5500 miles. Hopefully, mine doesn't have the bad pump

pauly1119 · 09-17-2020, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SSallday

5/18 build date with 5500 miles. Hopefully, mine doesn't have the bad pump

Im 6/18 with 3700 miles hoping the same. I think 2019 production builds started 8/18.

SSallday · 09-18-2020, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by pauly1119

Im 6/18 with 3700 miles hoping the same. I think 2019 production builds started 8/18.

I think we should be ok. Most failures occurred in cars that were produced in 2017. I think there was only one with a build date from 4/18, which would mean that there’s a very slim chance that we would have a failure

Katech_Mike · 10-05-2020, 04:31 PM

The wait for a solution is finally over.

https://store.katechengines.com/gen-...pump-p918.aspx

Mark R · 10-05-2020, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Katech_Mike

The wait for a solution is finally over.

https://store.katechengines.com/gen-...pump-p918.aspx

Interesting. However, it says it may (will?) require tuning, so for stock cars, this might not be a good solution.

Thanks for posting.

Katech_Mike · 10-05-2020, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark R

Interesting. However, it says it may (will?) require tuning, so for stock cars, this might not be a good solution.

Thanks for posting.

It requires no tuning if you use a car pump in a car. If you try to use a truck pump in a car it will require tuning as the truck pump is higher pressure.

I've edited the wording on the website. Hope this clears it up.

JonDaddy82 · 10-05-2020, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Katech_Mike

It requires no tuning if you use a car pump in a car. If you try to use a truck pump in a car it will require tuning as the truck pump is higher pressure.

I've edited the wording on the website. Hope this clears it up.

Nice! Glad there's an option out there now.

EvilZL · 10-05-2020, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Katech_Mike

The wait for a solution is finally over.

https://store.katechengines.com/gen-...pump-p918.aspx

Sweet!!

swisstyphoon · 10-06-2020, 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Katech_Mike

The wait for a solution is finally over.

https://store.katechengines.com/gen-...pump-p918.aspx

Nice! Just in time for my winter project...
Can you give us some more details about the pump.
I'm assuming that the weak points of the failing stock pumps have been changed. Do whe know which internal parts were the problem?
Any other benefits using your pump over the newest one from GM?
Are some of your pre production units already running, and tested for a while?

Katech_Mike · 10-06-2020, 10:07 AM

The powdered metal rotor housing is what breaks as shown in multiple posts in this thread. The size of the housing is reduced near the locating pin which is the failure point on every single pump. We have eliminated that piece and replaced it with a 4140 billet steel piece along with other internal updates.

The newest GM pump is not a fix. The rotor housing is still powdered metal and is easily broken with minimal force.

We've been developing this pump for months and have beat the heck out of it on the dyno with countless hours of track simulation without a failure. We have pumps going into cars in house as we speak.

Vtor_ZL1 · 10-06-2020, 10:45 AM

We need a side by side.. what breaks and the fix.

View Poll Results: Who has experienced an oil pump failure?
2016 or earlier	25	14.97%
2017	57	34.13%
2018	77	46.11%
2019	3	1.80%
2020	4	2.40%
2021	1	0.60%
Voters: 167. You may not vote on this poll

09-17-2020, 11:48 AM	#576
IneedAZ Drives: 2017 ZL1 A10 & 2021 BMW M340i x Dr Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Tampa Posts: 5,111 View My Garage	Originally when i bought the car 3 years ago i had thought the same about leaving it stock, but now i figure unless there is an unforeseen event, i will keep the car for at least a decade so why not make it how i want. With 14k miles on it, it still looks like it is brand new. __________________ Sold 2012 2LT RS 12.3@112 old setup Sold 1967 Camaro Pro Street. Ran 10's mild BB on NOS. 2017 HyperBlue ZL1 A10 Born 3/17/17Delivered 4/08/17 2020 Build: Mag2650, BTR Stage2, NW103, BG, 14% lower, 90mm upper, ARH 2" Long system w/no cats, SW Legend mufflers. 807hp/762tq on 93 gas and 848hp/792tq on e47 Sold 2018 (Go Mango) Dodge Charger Daytona 392 Daily Driver Daily Driver 2021 BMW M340i Xdrive

10-06-2020, 10:45 AM	#588
Vtor_ZL1 Who Needs to KNOW? Drives: 18 ZLE Join Date: May 2018 Location: Left Side of the Moon Posts: 1,839	We need a side by side.. what breaks and the fix. __________________ ing for grip. Are you in the NY/NJ/PA/CT region? Join us for autox fun at MetLife Stadium. HUGE lots, tons of runs. http://www.motorsportsne.com/

09-17-2020, 07:25 PM	#578
SSallday Drives: ‘18 ZL1 / ‘22 ZLE Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: PA Posts: 603	5/18 build date with 5500 miles. Hopefully, mine doesn't have the bad pump

10-05-2020, 04:31 PM	#581
Katech_Mike Drives: 2015 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: Clinton Twp, Michigan Posts: 323	The wait for a solution is finally over. https://store.katechengines.com/gen-...pump-p918.aspx

10-06-2020, 10:07 AM	#587
Katech_Mike Drives: 2015 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: Clinton Twp, Michigan Posts: 323	The powdered metal rotor housing is what breaks as shown in multiple posts in this thread. The size of the housing is reduced near the locating pin which is the failure point on every single pump. We have eliminated that piece and replaced it with a 4140 billet steel piece along with other internal updates. The newest GM pump is not a fix. The rotor housing is still powdered metal and is easily broken with minimal force. We've been developing this pump for months and have beat the heck out of it on the dyno with countless hours of track simulation without a failure. We have pumps going into cars in house as we speak.

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