[10mm]

Gen 6's are underrated, under appreciated cars for the money.
Sure they have the typical gm cheapness to keep costs down.

However the engineers went all in on the drivetrain
and cheaped out on chinesium/ mexico components, harness' etc.






Love the car just they way it is and only have an LT1 A10.
I think its time to upgrade and buy a M6 2SS.
The missus says go all out and get a ZL1
but the Z will put me in a grave or most like likely a jail cell...

[MR2Aaron]

Originally Posted by dyingbreed

Especially manual LT1-powered and convertible owners please!

The number 1 for me is that visibility out of the car really is an issue. Like, yeah, "you get used to it," but it's a fundamental flaw of the car. It's particularly bad in the area you'd normally check for the presence of another car or motorcycle before changing lanes, but frankly, it's kinda bad in every direction - even forwards. The hood and front bumper are really high all the way to the front of the car, so the stretch of road in front of you that you can't see is much larger than most other vehicles. At least, it's worse than anything else I've experienced.

I've owned an S550 Mustang as well, and it suffers from this too, but not as badly. I had a Challenger as a rental once, and that was worse in front, but better to the rear and sides.

Other, more minor gripes I have with the car:
* The 20" wheels are silly. I wish 18s or 19s were standard.
* The trunk opening is comically small, despite that the trunk is actually fairly spacious, and it seems like they could have made the opening go down into the bumper another couple of inches.
* When you turn it off, it resets the drive mode to "tour." I wish it would just stay in whatever mode was selected before.
* The hill start assist is annoying. It lets go too easily and abruptly. Ford's programming of this is better, where it waits until it detects you're moving forward before letting go.
* I wish the skip shift feature was more insistent. It's too easy to override it and go to second instead of fourth gear, even when I don't really need to use second and third gear.
* The special unicorn blood oil it requires isn't sold in stores, so you have to mail order it.
* The center console storage cubby is ludicrously small, and there aren't even door pockets.
* You have to choose between "red hot" and "shock" yellow.

None of these things should be a deal breaker if you're buying this car for what it does well, but if you intend to use it every day, some of them will probably annoy you.

[JKSully]

Originally Posted by MR2Aaron

The number 1 for me is that visibility out of the car really is an issue.

* You have to choose between "red hot" and "shock" yellow.

Going with a 2SS gets you some additional tech assists to help with some of the visibility issues - blind spot monitoring and the rear camera mirror, for example.

I'm not sure what you mean by the last one about colors, though.

[arpad_m]

Originally Posted by MR2Aaron

* The trunk opening is comically small, despite that the trunk is actually fairly spacious, and it seems like they could have made the opening go down into the bumper another couple of inches.
* When you turn it off, it resets the drive mode to "tour." I wish it would just stay in whatever mode was selected before.

Yeah, I think splitting the taillights and mounting half of them onto a (larger) trunk lid would've been an option.

BTW the driving mode is preserved for tour and sport, while track and snow/ice are reset to tour when you restart the car. Must be some safety thing with track mode, and I'm baffled as to why snow/ice isn't preserved or why they couldn't give us mode presets.

[Idaho2018GTPremium]

Originally Posted by arpad_m

Yeah, I think splitting the taillights and mounting half of them onto a (larger) trunk lid would've been an option.

I believe that's against regulations. The functional (actual) tail lights can't be on the tailgate or trunk. What they could have done is made the tail lights slightly narrower and widened the trunk opening.

[arpad_m]

Originally Posted by Idaho2018GTPremium

I believe that's against regulations. The functional (actual) tail lights can't be on the tailgate or trunk. What they could have done is made the tail lights slightly narrower and widened the trunk opening.

AFAIK only brake lights aren't allowed to reside on a movable body element, and those are on the outside on our cars, so this wouldn't be an issue. BMW has no problems selling split taillights in the US market, and neither do several other companies.

[Chutzpah]

Originally Posted by MR2Aaron

The number 1 for me is that visibility out of the car really is an issue. Like, yeah, "you get used to it," but it's a fundamental flaw of the car. It's particularly bad in the area you'd normally check for the presence of another car or motorcycle before changing lanes, but frankly, it's kinda bad in every direction - even forwards. The hood and front bumper are really high all the way to the front of the car, so the stretch of road in front of you that you can't see is much larger than most other vehicles. At least, it's worse than anything else I've experienced.

I've owned an S550 Mustang as well, and it suffers from this too, but not as badly. I had a Challenger as a rental once, and that was worse in front, but better to the rear and sides.

Other, more minor gripes I have with the car:
* The 20" wheels are silly. I wish 18s or 19s were standard.
* The trunk opening is comically small, despite that the trunk is actually fairly spacious, and it seems like they could have made the opening go down into the bumper another couple of inches.
* When you turn it off, it resets the drive mode to "tour." I wish it would just stay in whatever mode was selected before.
* The hill start assist is annoying. It lets go too easily and abruptly. Ford's programming of this is better, where it waits until it detects you're moving forward before letting go.
* I wish the skip shift feature was more insistent. It's too easy to override it and go to second instead of fourth gear, even when I don't really need to use second and third gear.
* The special unicorn blood oil it requires isn't sold in stores, so you have to mail order it.
* The center console storage cubby is ludicrously small, and there aren't even door pockets.
* You have to choose between "red hot" and "shock" yellow.

None of these things should be a deal breaker if you're buying this car for what it does well, but if you intend to use it every day, some of them will probably annoy you.

And this is why I love my convertible…once I dropped the top during the initial test ride, all those problems went away.

[3.8TransAM]

Originally Posted by MR2Aaron

The number 1 for me is that visibility out of the car really is an issue. Like, yeah, "you get used to it," but it's a fundamental flaw of the car. It's particularly bad in the area you'd normally check for the presence of another car or motorcycle before changing lanes, but frankly, it's kinda bad in every direction - even forwards. The hood and front bumper are really high all the way to the front of the car, so the stretch of road in front of you that you can't see is much larger than most other vehicles. At least, it's worse than anything else I've experienced.

I've owned an S550 Mustang as well, and it suffers from this too, but not as badly. I had a Challenger as a rental once, and that was worse in front, but better to the rear and sides.

Other, more minor gripes I have with the car:
* The 20" wheels are silly. I wish 18s or 19s were standard.
* The trunk opening is comically small, despite that the trunk is actually fairly spacious, and it seems like they could have made the opening go down into the bumper another couple of inches.
* When you turn it off, it resets the drive mode to "tour." I wish it would just stay in whatever mode was selected before.
* The hill start assist is annoying. It lets go too easily and abruptly. Ford's programming of this is better, where it waits until it detects you're moving forward before letting go.
* I wish the skip shift feature was more insistent. It's too easy to override it and go to second instead of fourth gear, even when I don't really need to use second and third gear.
* The special unicorn blood oil it requires isn't sold in stores, so you have to mail order it.
* The center console storage cubby is ludicrously small, and there aren't even door pockets.
* You have to choose between "red hot" and "shock" yellow.

None of these things should be a deal breaker if you're buying this car for what it does well, but if you intend to use it every day, some of them will probably annoy you.

You're mirrors aren't set properly.......

[ckt227]

Originally Posted by 10mm

Gen 6's are underrated, under appreciated cars for the money.
Sure they have the typical gm cheapness to keep costs down.

However the engineers went all in on the drivetrain
and cheaped out on chinesium/ mexico components, harness' etc.






Love the car just they way it is and only have an LT1 A10.
I think its time to upgrade and buy a M6 2SS.
The missus says go all out and get a ZL1
but the Z will put me in a grave or most like likely a jail cell...

I am not a professional race car driver and have had several vettes, camaros, gto's and chevy SS's (the Holden one's). I had a 2018 ZL1. That car was sic, but you have to respect it or you can find yourself screwed real quick.

[Turul]

Originally Posted by dyingbreed

Why? Hand brake turns?

Yea, how am I supposed to drift this sucka without a hand brake?




borrowed from another website:


Cons:

• Decoupling of the driver and the associated loss of control and function.
• Pull-in and release times at 1 second, which is slightly slower than a manual parking brake.
• Total failure of the function if the electrical power supply fails.
• Higher complexity.
• Costs, whereby the costs of the electronic parking brake are approaching those of the conventional handbrake more and more due to the increasing spread in the market.
• “Gentle” release not possible or dependent on programming, which makes starting on slippery surfaces very difficult.
• Systems that work with additional motor-gear units mounted directly on the brake caliper increase the unsprung mass on the affected wheels.
• Brake cannot be used to drift the vehicle.

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by 10mm

Gen 6's are underrated, under appreciated cars for the money.
Sure they have the typical gm cheapness to keep costs down.

However the engineers went all in on the drivetrain
and cheaped out on chinesium/ mexico components, harness' etc.

Love the car just they way it is and only have an LT1 A10.
I think its time to upgrade and buy a M6 2SS.
The missus says go all out and get a ZL1
but the Z will put me in a grave or most like likely a jail cell...

Consider a 2SS 1LE M6.

I’ve owned a 16 2SS A8 MRC and a 18 2SS M6 Hot Wheels. The 1LE has a presence n capabilities that dwarf the 2SS and the heated ventilated Recaros are a major upgrade over the standard seats

I’m with you about the ZL1. It’s power is appreciated but not accessible on the street. I have believed, and said for four years, that the SS 1LE is the sweet spot and the star of the Alpha Camaros. Value and attainable.

[The Maverick]

Originally Posted by 3.8TransAM

You're mirrors aren't set properly.......

And on top of that, you can always add one of these wide-angle clip-on mirrors. Used this on my 2016 daily driver but have been pretty happy with the camera mirror on my 2021.

[z28deuce]

For those complaining about the slow release of the parking brake, you know you can just drive out of it without manually releasing it at all, right? It goes against the way I, and I assume virtually all of us, learned to use the parking brake, which makes it kind of hard to do, but it does work.

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[Turul]

Originally Posted by z28deuce

For those complaining about the slow release of the parking brake, you know you can just drive out of it without manually releasing it at all, right? It goes against the way I, and I assume virtually all of us, learned to use the parking brake, which makes it kind of hard to do, but it does work.

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Good to know


Thank you