[JKSully]

Originally Posted by CamaroSSStlfan

These days I'd be worried about getting pulled over by a rouge officer and the "footage" disappears. Courts will almost always side with the officer.

Get a camera with cloud access that uploads your videos automatically. Put that in-car wi-fi hotspot to good use.

[CamaroSSStlfan]

Originally Posted by JKSully

Get a camera with cloud access that uploads your videos automatically. Put that in-car wi-fi hotspot to good use.

Yea, my security cameras around the house automatically upload.

They're also good for car jacking too and standing your ground as well if you have to shoot someone and it goes to trial. Without cloud there a good chance a prosecutor would withhold that evidence.

[Nothing like an SS]

Originally Posted by ember1205

Whether they drive off or not, it's a civil matter case. Filing an insurance claim generally stays out of court so long as all parties agree who did what. If the actual at-fault party denies responsibility, it then ends up in court with the person that wasn't at fault suing the person that was.

The only thing the police do is cite for improper operation or whatever. They have to either witness it directly, or be able to draw that conclusion upon arriving at the scene...

Here in NY, that is a hit and run, leaving the scene of an accident, and it IS criminal, not civil. Police will arrest you and you will be prosecuted, period. Check your facts.....

[ZED SLED]

Originally Posted by pzoom

You can get a Garmin OBD plug and dash cam for <$200 and install in less than 10 minutes. No hacking, disassembly, etc. See the audio section, it’s simple and with all the crazies out there it is worth it.

As a Garmin employee, I thank you for your patronage.

[ember1205]

Originally Posted by Nothing like an SS

Here in NY, that is a hit and run, leaving the scene of an accident, and it IS criminal, not civil. Police will arrest you and you will be prosecuted, period. Check your facts.....

It's not hit and run / criminal unless there was an injury. Check YOUR facts.

[Nothing like an SS]

Originally Posted by ember1205

It's not hit and run / criminal unless there was an injury. Check YOUR facts.

Not correct, but whatever, only been living my entire life, have 3 relatives and a dozen friends on the Suffolk and NYC police departments, but, what do they know anyway, am I right? ok I will just move on now...

[Nothing like an SS]

Just for fun, I'll leave this here:

Leaving the scene of an accident in NY involving property damage or personal injury is a serious violation. After an accident, you must stop your vehicle and exchange insurance information with the other party. If either of you summons the police to the scene, you must wait for them to arrive.

If you leave the scene of an accident without exchanging insurance information or if you do not wait for the police to arrive after an accident, there may be serious legal consequences. This includes traditional hit-and-run accidents when the driver responsible for an accident strikes another vehicle and leaves the scene. If you are in a parking lot or strike an unoccupied vehicle or another object, you must make a good faith to locate the owner or to make sure that your insurance information is left: putting your insurance information on the vehicle for the other driver to find, for example. You should exchange information even if only minor damage is done to the vehicle. You must also notify the police of the accident. They will let you know whether or not they will come to the scene of the accident for a police report or if you are able to leave.

[ZED SLED]

When I was in Michigan my son sideswiped someone on a gravel road and didn't stop, about a week after getting his driver's license. He was charged with leaving the scene. It would have been hit & run had there been an injury. Either way, it was criminal. He was given a citation, had to appear in court, pay a fine, and lost his license for 6 months.

[Nothing like an SS]

Originally Posted by ZED SLED

When I was in Michigan my son sideswiped someone on a gravel road and didn't stop, about a week after getting his driver's license. He was charged with leaving the scene. It would have been hit & run had there been an injury. Either way, it was criminal. He was given a citation, had to appear in court, pay a fine, and lost his license for 6 months.

^^^This.^^^

In NY hit and run does not necessarily involve injury. Example, car sideswipes parked cars on the street, caught on a camera, guy is picked up next day. No injuries of any kind to anyone, still arrested, go figure! But Michigan seems similar otherwise. Certainly not "civil" only.

[JKSully]

Originally Posted by Nothing like an SS

Just for fun, I'll leave this here:

Leaving the scene of an accident in NY involving property damage or personal injury is a serious violation. After an accident, you must stop your vehicle and exchange insurance information with the other party. If either of you summons the police to the scene, you must wait for them to arrive.

If you leave the scene of an accident without exchanging insurance information or if you do not wait for the police to arrive after an accident, there may be serious legal consequences. This includes traditional hit-and-run accidents when the driver responsible for an accident strikes another vehicle and leaves the scene. If you are in a parking lot or strike an unoccupied vehicle or another object, you must make a good faith to locate the owner or to make sure that your insurance information is left: putting your insurance information on the vehicle for the other driver to find, for example. You should exchange information even if only minor damage is done to the vehicle. You must also notify the police of the accident. They will let you know whether or not they will come to the scene of the accident for a police report or if you are able to leave.

More importantly for Ember:

https://cga.ct.gov/2015/rpt/pdf/2015-R-0189.pdf

The law requires a motor vehicle operator who is knowingly involved in an accident to stop and render assistance as may be needed and provide an injured person, an officer, a witness, or an owner of damaged property with his or her name, address, and operator's license and registration number.
A driver who fails to do so is subject to different penalties depending on whether it is a first or subsequent offense and whether the violation
resulted in death, serious physical injury, physical injury, or property damage.
Penalties range from up to one year imprisonment, a fine of $75 to $600, or both to up to 20 years in prison, a fine of up to $20,000, or both, effective October 1, 2015. Offenders also face license suspension penalties.

[pzoom]

Originally Posted by ZED SLED

As a Garmin employee, I thank you for your patronage.

Anyway you can request a time longer than 10 min on the Garmin Constant Power Cable? 10 minutes is so short - maybe something like 2 hours? If I go out (store/gym/eat), I'm only away for less than 2 hours. I'd rather record the entire time instead of relying on a bump to record.

Or maybe a new version with Bluetooth where I can set whatever time via my phone? I'd pay twice as much for that.

https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=595970

[ember1205]

Originally Posted by JKSully

More importantly for Ember:

https://cga.ct.gov/2015/rpt/pdf/2015-R-0189.pdf

The law requires a motor vehicle operator who is knowingly involved in an accident to stop and render assistance as may be needed and provide an injured person, an officer, a witness, or an owner of damaged property with his or her name, address, and operator's license and registration number.
A driver who fails to do so is subject to different penalties depending on whether it is a first or subsequent offense and whether the violation
resulted in death, serious physical injury, physical injury, or property damage.
Penalties range from up to one year imprisonment, a fine of $75 to $600, or both to up to 20 years in prison, a fine of up to $20,000, or both, effective October 1, 2015. Offenders also face license suspension penalties.

Haven't you heard? As a resident of CT I implicitly know every law that pertains to me already? lol

Anyway... My point is that there are hard statements being made along the lines of "you will be criminally prosecuted...", and the truth is that it's "you MAY be criminally prosecuted..."

There are very specific reasons that certain things will turn out one way versus another. For a motor vehicle accident, everything is a civil case until and unless there is an ability to prove criminal charges are warranted... You don't instantly have criminal charges pressed against you because you were in a car accident.

[JKSully]

Originally Posted by ember1205

Haven't you heard? As a resident of CT I implicitly know every law that pertains to me already? lol

Anyway... My point is that there are hard statements being made along the lines of "you will be criminally prosecuted...", and the truth is that it's "you MAY be criminally prosecuted..."

There are very specific reasons that certain things will turn out one way versus another. For a motor vehicle accident, everything is a civil case until and unless there is an ability to prove criminal charges are warranted... You don't instantly have criminal charges pressed against you because you were in a car accident.

You said "it's not hit and run/criminal unless there is an injury" - that's a hard statement that happens to be wrong.

It's kind of obvious you don't know every law - which is why it's baffling that you make hard statements about it not being criminal without checking. Took me 5 minutes in Google to find that, much like the things I found on reflectors in another thread that you were adamant and wrong about.

[ember1205]

Originally Posted by JKSully

You said "it's not hit and run/criminal unless there is an injury" - that's a hard statement that happens to be wrong.

It's kind of obvious you don't know every law - which is why it's baffling that you make hard statements about it not being criminal without checking. Took me 5 minutes in Google to find that, much like the things I found on reflectors in another thread that you were adamant and wrong about.

Your comments "to me" are pertaining to CT law. I wasn't commenting on CT law. NY law explicitly states that any hit and run with an injury WILL have criminal charges. Anything else pertaining to hit and run in NY -MAY- have criminal charges which are determined by things like how much property damage has been done.