[Mark R]

Originally Posted by Ryephile

Agreed. Even then...

Fun fact: The Bugatti Chiron is driven 200 miles [on factory wheels & tires] and then another 30 miles on the customer wheels & tires before delivery. This is to ensure the car is fully broken-in before the customer gets it so they can just get in and enjoy it straight away.

Another fun and interesting fact is that Bugatti spends 4 days detailing each car after the testing and delivery miles are put on.

[DANACO]

Originally Posted by 19Nasty1le

So you're saying you don't do the 500mile under 4k RPM guideline? If not how long do you wait before giving it the goods?

Mine had 6 miles on the odometer on the showroom floor, it wasn’t easy to get them to let me drive it for a test but they finally did, I put on 18 miles on the test drive and back onto the showroom floor it went and stayed there until we finally worked out at deal nearly two weeks later. From there I essentially kept it under 4K with a few mistakes near redline but I got on it hard many many times up to 4K. It’s the variation in speed, no lugging, and occasional hard pulls that are best for engine break in in my experience.

[Captain J]

Originally Posted by DangerZL1

I'm looking at a 19 ZL1 at an out of town dealer. He says it has 14 miles on it, has been on the lot for a month or so, and has been driven by two of his customers. Obviously, I'd prefer one with no more than 3 or so miles, but would you feel comfortable buying the car?

Maybe I'm being a little picky, but I'd think whoever test drove the car probably took it over 4k rpm and drove it harder than I would until the break in was over.

14 miles? My Camaro Vert, while not a ZL1, had 56 miles on it. I'd say 14 miles isn't a problem. I've bought "demo" cars that had 4000 +/- miles. I did turn down purchasing what the dealer called a demo with 14,000 miles on the clock.

[DangerZL1]

Just finished texting with the salesman. It wasn’t over the mileage, but I did ask him about the miles. As been posted, he said they do PDI the car which puts some miles on it. He also said it had been test driven by a couple of customers, once with him and by another sales person. He said don’t allow test drives without a sales person and no drives in sports cars in the rain. This makes it challenging to see the car this week. I might be able to go Saturday if the weather will let up.

I’m going to our credit union to make sure I have pre approval for the financing when I get there. It’s a great tool to use for getting them to beat an already low rate.

[SFV1LE]

The 2018 I bought in 11/18 had 9 miles on it, and had been sitting in the showroom for so long the battery died. I liked that about it, but 14 miles is fine. personally I'm ok with anything under 20 but that's the cutoff for me.

The way I see it, the problems I worry about arise when someone test drives it and DOESN'T ALLOW THE OIL TO GET TO FULL TEMP--AT LEAST 180F BUT PREFERABLY 200F, and then they rev it over 4000, or to redline, repeatedly.

Sadly this happens a lot, most people actually think you only need to warm up the coolant, but damage during break-in occurs when oil is not at full operating temp and the car is revved high. This can damage the new unseated rings and cylinder walls, which will seat improperly and then never do their job containing combustion gasses (blow-by) or scraping the oil down to keep it outside of the combustion chamber. And then you get bad oil consumption forever.

[Cake's Z]

Mine had 120 miles. Had the typical dealer swirl package..... no major chips or issues for sitting on the lot for several months. It had all the options I wanted so I went for it. I have 3200 miles on her now and no issues have come up, no smoke on start up or oil consumption. I do agree with the warm up of the oil, the test drive prior to when I purchased my zl1 the sales man told me to floor it like two mins into the test drive.

[DangerZL1]

You just echoed my concerns about test drives. I know the car isn’t fragile, but I’d be disappointed if it used oil. If I did a local deal I could jump to the break in guidelines for the crate motor right after I took delivery in one evening. The one I found has more options than I wanted and is priced less than one I could order here. The only other option is to order from this dealer with less options and loose the $500 Chey cash. I’m not elidgeable for the additional $1000 cash.

[Cake's Z]

When I bought my WRX back in 2014 I drove it like I stole it with 7 miles on her. I did oil analysis samples every 3500 miles and never saw anything alarming. The biggest thing for me is allowing the temp to get up before any WOT events. How many average test drives are actually going that hard on a ZL1?

[MoreSpeed]

This is my exact car. The dealer loaned it out to this reviewer before I bought it. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f3Cuf1XS10U
Over 15k miles now and no issues. You can get an extended warranty if it gives you piece of mind. A few miles isn’t going to kill a great car.

[DANACO]

Originally Posted by MoreSpeed

This is my exact car. The dealer loaned it out to this reviewer before I bought it. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f3Cuf1XS10U
Over 15k miles now and no issues. You can get an extended warranty if it gives you piece of mind. A few miles isn’t going to kill a great car.

Extended warranties are fine but they’ll rarely address oil consumption, that threshold is pretty high in most cases. Regardless, with the 14 miles on the car he’s buying it will be just fine,very unlikely it will be an oil burner unless he is too kind to it !

[Fraxum]

Really, being able to drive the ZL1 or any other Hyper or near-Hyper-Car should require a special license. You are always only inches of throttle pushing away from your own disaster that may also take out others.

[Can'tHave2MuchHP]

Originally Posted by Fraxum

Really, being able to drive the ZL1 or any other Hyper or near-Hyper-Car should require a special license. You are always only inches of throttle pushing away from your own disaster that may also take out others.

This is ridiculous. And the ZL1 is no where near Hyper car levels. What you say is just as true for any vehicle on the road. I guarantee I can do more damage with my 2500 Duramax than my ZL1. Your drivers license already required you to pass testing that the states deem sufficient.

[Airfuel]

Originally Posted by Can'tHave2MuchHP

This is ridiculous. Your drivers license already required you to pass testing that the states deem sufficient.

[Can'tHave2MuchHP]

Originally Posted by Airfuel

Oh I agree with that. But it's the thinking past first base that's what matters...How would you judge which car is "fast enough" or "dangerous enough" to require a second license? How hard or easy for that matter can you make it? Make it like a CDL or Pilots license that requires lots of drive time? How will that work for young, skilled drivers? Make it by HP? There are cars that are WAY faster than their HP indicates, and conversely SUVs with lots of HP that may break the limits but are little different than an everyday SUV/Sedan in driving difficulty. Make it by track time? Invent a new "scale" that all cars have to be graded on by ANOTHER created Government committee that will end up being a unorganized, money pit like most Govt. Agencies/Committees etc.? Make the manufacturers judge? So now price on cars that require an extra license become more or less desirable depending? How about rich people that have little interest in cars but can afford a LaFerrari like Kylie Jenner so they buy one just to have? Do they have to pass a driving test?

See. Totally ridiculous.

Plus what I said is true...You could take any vehicle...60 MPH + 5000+ pounds for your everyday Sedan/SUV will do tons of damage. Does that need another license too?