[Airfuel]

Originally Posted by JCunningham

if you can afford a ZL1 that is the car to get. 99% of them or the 1LE never see a track. Although the 1LE and ZL1 make fun track cars they are really built to be a great grand touring cars.

Not really.
Giant expensive tires and stiff springs and other suspension parts are not grand touring equipment.

I ordered the 2SS to fit that bill. A bit of luxury and still handles better than a BMW M4.
I can’t imagine a harder ride than the 2SS for DD or long distance drives. (Even with mag ride)

I see Ricky racers all the time in the motorcycle world. (My field of work)
Young kids buying super sport bikes, (basically race bikes) and saying how comfortable it is on the highway and trips. Nope!

[Gen6_1Le]

Originally Posted by Midlifejohnny

Hey boys and girls. First post. Deciding on a 2019 SS or SS 1LE. I’m still torn between which transmission so don’t let that be the deciding factor. If I’m being honest with myself I most likely will never track the car. I live in south Fl and have homestead and Palm beach raceway nearby so maybe I change my mind. My question is to other 1E owners. Which car would you choose if strictly a daily driver. Also, while I have you . Any SS 1LE owners have ZL1 envy? I’m still considering the zL1 as well but it just seems like to much car to enjoy on the roads?

Both Zl1 and SS/1Le are more like a factory built Pro Touring cars then all out track cars. Although the Zl1 has a more power it is well behaved driving ,at least the one i drove felt that way but it was an automatic . You can't go wrong with one or the other ,unless you sit in traffic a lot . I have no envy or regrets getting a SS/1Le just a lot enjoyable driving time . In 50 years the Zl1 and SS/1Le will be legends and looked back on as the shining moments of the 5th and 6th gens .

[JCunningham]

Originally Posted by Airfuel

Not really.
Giant expensive tires and stiff springs and other suspension parts are not grand touring equipment.

I ordered the 2SS to fit that bill. A bit of luxury and still handles better than a BMW M4.
I can’t imagine a harder ride than the 2SS for DD or long distance drives. (Even with mag ride)

I see Ricky racers all the time in the motorcycle world. (My field of work)
Young kids buying super sport bikes, (basically race bikes) and saying how comfortable it is on the highway and trips. Nope!

i guess thats subjective. I have a 2ss with mag ride reprogramed with the 1le suspension and I think it rides nice. better than any anything else iv been in.

[protovack]

Originally Posted by Gen6_1Le

Both Zl1 and SS/1Le are more like a factory built Pro Touring cars then all out track cars. Although the Zl1 has a more power it is well behaved driving ,at least the one i drove felt that way but it was an automatic . You can't go wrong with one or the other ,unless you sit in traffic a lot . I have no envy or regrets getting a SS/1Le just a lot enjoyable driving time . In 50 years the Zl1 and SS/1Le will be legends and looked back on as the shining moments of the 5th and 6th gens .

well said!

[JCunningham]

Originally Posted by Airfuel

Not really.
Giant expensive tires and stiff springs and other suspension parts are not grand touring equipment.

I ordered the 2SS to fit that bill. A bit of luxury and still handles better than a BMW M4.
I can’t imagine a harder ride than the 2SS for DD or long distance drives. (Even with mag ride)

I see Ricky racers all the time in the motorcycle world. (My field of work)
Young kids buying super sport bikes, (basically race bikes) and saying how comfortable it is on the highway and trips. Nope!

ya the tires aren't for grand touring. 12k miles if you're lucky out of them. I put Michelin pilot Super Sports on mine.

[JBones81]

I owned a 2016 Auto 2SS, and my 2017 SS 1LE.

I still own the 1LE.

[BlaqWhole]

If you're even thinking about the ZL1 then that is the car to get. If you're asking if others have ZL1 envy then to me that means that you just might have it when you get your SS. So I say, go for broke from the start.

Back in 5th Gen days I did not believe the ZL1 had anything over the SS to make me want one. When the 6th Gen SS came out I did not think it had enough over the 5th Gen SS to make me desire it. When the ZL1 came out I was all for it based off the numbers alone. I jumped on one as soon as the opportunity arose. Looking back, if I had bought a 5th Gen ZL1 or 6th Gen SS then I would have been disappointed. The ZL1 is in a class all by itself.

How much power can you use on the streets really? All of it. Do you have to mash the gas every time you take off? No. But even at part throttle or just lightly giving it some gas you'll know and feel the difference of those extra 195 horses. Look at it like this...when SS guys throw a blower on their car and say it's a night and day difference, that is what you'll be starting off with. Not to mention the A10 trans. And I'm not knocking the SS at all. It is a great car. But the ZL1 is what is just a different animal altogether.

Last thing. Get a ZL1 and you will not be disappointed.

[Airfuel]

Originally Posted by JCunningham

i guess thats subjective. I have a 2ss with mag ride reprogramed with the 1le suspension and I think it rides nice. better than any anything else iv been in.

So you put the 1le suspension pieces, (stiffer springs and stiffer sway barsj reprogrammed the mag ride more aggressive and it rides better on the street?

Amazing! I may do that also!

[bpang1234]

If the 2SS 1LE was available when I was buying, that's what I would've gotten. Even if you don't track it, I think it will be more desirable when you go to re-sell it...hell, that would be a great find.

[zx9rmal]

Originally Posted by EDS

This is why I bought my 2SS 1LE. The only things I don't like about the 1LE as a DD are how the wide tires follow grooves in the road

It's the OEM SC3 tires. The PS4S's I have now do not do that.

[cbr1100xx]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

How much power can you use on the streets really? All of it. Do you have to mash the gas every time you take off? No. But even at part throttle or just lightly giving it some gas you'll know and feel the difference of those extra 195 horses. Look at it like this...when SS guys throw a blower on their car and say it's a night and day difference

I'm sure at part throttle the difference between an SS and a ZL1 aint worth $20K+. When flooring it, I'm sure there's difference. But then again after having a Whippled car in the past, you cannot utilize the power on the street. I'm also guessing that if you floored a Zl1 at a stoplight, you'd have no traction.

One thing I really liked about the SS is that you can floor it on the streets and it's not so overpowered that the rear end is all over the place and you're not going 100 in 5 secs.

[CrazyCatGuy]

Originally Posted by cbr1100xx

One thing I really liked about the SS is that you can floor it on the streets and it's not so overpowered that the rear end is all over the place and you're not going 100 in 5 secs.

Very true. Even the SS gets up to speed too fast for most roads I drive on lol. I couldn't imagine owning a ZL1 since I don't think I'd ever use the 650hp/tq it has. My end goals for the SS are probably cam, IM, TB, headers and tune. I believe that will be more than enough for me

[DaveC113]

Yeah, SS is quick but rpms need to be up there like any NA motor.

ZL1 advantage is more power/tq at low rpms for street driving. I think torque peak is 3600 vs 4400 rpms or so. So +200 lbs torque peaking 800 rpms lower. That's significant!

[cbr1100xx]

Originally Posted by DaveC113

Yeah, SS is quick but rpms need to be up there like any NA motor.

Not like many NA motors I've driven! The torque from the SS is plentiful. I've never driven one thinking, I better keep the revs up.