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Old 10-02-2018, 11:54 AM   #43
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1. where did you guys buy your cable. i have a 2018 ss and got my cable from mizzys, didnt fit. most mfgs say they dont have a cable that has been tested with the 2018 tremec.
2. dont know how you guys are getting the dealer to do that. my dealer says its a federal emmisions device and they can do prison time for altering it.
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This is true - a dealer would be in violation of federal law for modifying anything that has to do with emissions controls. The fines are huge, and the EPA doesn’t mess around. I can’t believe any dealer would risk it.

OTOH, this regulation only applies to factory-franchised dealers, so any vehicle owner or independent service tech could install the device.
How is CAGS an emissions device? It's just a lockout that provides better gas mileage to get past the gas guzzler tax. It doesn't do anything to alter emissions. If I launch out of the CAGS boundaries at every start it doesn't activate either. Am I violating emissions laws by doing that? All you're doing with a SSE is overriding CAGS so you can do the same thing at a normal launch.
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Old 10-02-2018, 01:03 PM   #44
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sure, just like the check engine light checks your engine. open your gas cap and the check engine light goes off. does it tell you if the water pump is bad. in the 90's calif banned the 6 speed toyota tercel. why, better gas mileage. its all about pollution
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Old 10-02-2018, 09:26 PM   #45
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CAGS affects fuel economy, which obviously affects emissions. More revs equals more gas burned and more dirty junk out the exhaust - both of which EPA finds objectionable.

Technically, Corporate Average Fuel Economy standards are regulated and enforced by NHTSA, and the EPA calculates CAFE and Greenhouse Gas emission levels for manufacturers. Starting in 2010, both agencies began issuing joint regulations.
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Old 10-03-2018, 02:40 AM   #46
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I never had the skip shift work in my car. I got a 2018 1LE brand new and it never worked since I drove it off the lot. I get the message to shift to fourth but it never forced me. I can shift to 2nd even while the notification comes up. I don't want it to work but I found it weird it doesn't.
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Old 10-03-2018, 08:28 AM   #47
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If you don’t try to shift from first to second until you get to about 1,800-1,900 rpm, you’ll bypass the system.
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Old 10-03-2018, 08:31 AM   #48
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I never had the skip shift work in my car. I got a 2018 1LE brand new and it never worked since I drove it off the lot. I get the message to shift to fourth but it never forced me. I can shift to 2nd even while the notification comes up. I don't want it to work but I found it weird it doesn't.
Test drove one last week and I was constantly thinking about it, but it never locked me out.
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Old 10-03-2018, 08:40 AM   #49
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So I bought a SSE off Amazon made by Muzzys. I'm not sure if the TR6060 needs a different SEE than the T56 but I get random CELs now. I've unplugged and replugged it in to ensure a good connection.

Is there a specific SSE I should use for the TR6060? Does the 1LE need a specific SSE?
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Old 10-03-2018, 08:59 AM   #50
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I never had the skip shift work in my car. I got a 2018 1LE brand new and it never worked since I drove it off the lot. I get the message to shift to fourth but it never forced me. I can shift to 2nd even while the notification comes up. I don't want it to work but I found it weird it doesn't.
My '18 is weird about this too, sometimes it does force you, other times not and I think the logic might be different from previous... it does it at times I thought it wouldn't. IDK. Gonna install the eliminator...

I do think the 1>4 shift works fine in slow moving traffic though.
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Old 10-03-2018, 09:24 AM   #51
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I never had the skip shift work in my car. I got a 2018 1LE brand new and it never worked since I drove it off the lot. I get the message to shift to fourth but it never forced me. I can shift to 2nd even while the notification comes up. I don't want it to work but I found it weird it doesn't.
Mine locks me out about 10% of the time when the message comes up. I just wait a split second and it will let me go into 2nd without issue.
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Old 10-03-2018, 09:47 AM   #52
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I have been working around this on my 2018, but I will say I have bought an eliminator that I will be installing ASAP. The clip on my trans is facing upward for some reason, so I will need to have my car on a lift to install it. The breaking point for me was when I was picking up my son from school. I was waiting to turn left across a 4 lane split highway separated by a median. The traffic was open on my left so I slowly pulled out to the middle to catch a gap in the traffic going the direction I was heading. As I turned left and started to pull into traffic I was locked out of 2 and 3, so I was basically coasting across both lanes trying to get the car into 2nd, with upcoming highway speed traffic. It's hard to retrain the brain to either ride 1st longer than you typically do and there is really no way for me to train myself to go from 1-4. If I had done so, I would have probably been rear ended trying to accelerate in 4th at 1200 rpm up to 55-65 mph. I absolutely hate this feature on the car as it seems to get me mostly when I am pulling out into traffic.
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Old 10-03-2018, 10:12 AM   #53
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I do 1-3 most times. Not as bad as 1-4 and the lockout is only really meant to not allow you to slide into 2nd
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Old 10-03-2018, 10:20 AM   #54
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I do 1-3 most times. Not as bad as 1-4 and the lockout is only really meant to not allow you to slide into 2nd
At what rpm are you shifting? Why don’t you just hit 1,900 in first, which defeats the CAGS and will allow you to shift into second?
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Old 09-29-2022, 09:35 PM   #55
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2021 Camaro Skip shift eliminator did not fit

I ordered a Skip Shift, used a screw driver to pull the plug successfully. Plugged in the eliminator male end into the tranny. Female end is different and the harness does not fit! Had to return it. Shame.

Funny how the seller doesn't check the male and female ends need to be the same plug.
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Old 09-30-2022, 08:46 AM   #56
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I do 1-3 most times. Not as bad as 1-4 and the lockout is only really meant to not allow you to slide into 2nd
On the way to 2 from 1, move the shifter slightly into the left-to-right gate area on the way to 3-4, and then shift to 2. This defeats the lockout, as does more spirited driving. It's a quicker move than 1-3 if you want 2. Otherwise, 1-3 is definitely better than 1-4.

The irony of 1-4 technology/design/implementation is that it can cause an "engine lug" situation, which GM advises against in Camaro owner manuals, as possibly "being harmful" to the engine.

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