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Old 08-24-2017, 01:49 PM   #43
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I'm a little conflicted with some individuals perceptions. What may be a reality for some doesn't necessarily translate the same for others.

I traded in my 2016 Ecoboost Mustang for a 1SS. My insurance went up only 12 dollars with USAA. 4 cylinder to V8. 12 bucks. Gas? I average in my 2017 in the city mixed with occasional spirited runs: 18/23 MPG. Highway? 33/35 MPG. And my MPG is consistent with each fill up. Premium vs regular cost is approximately a 15/20 dollar difference.

My 5th Gen SS couldn't even come close to touching the efficiency of my 6th Gen SS.

As far as "creature comforts." I never cared for leather in any car. I dislike it. I don't like sunroofs for same reason I'll never own another convertible... eventual potential of wear and tear headaches. Which brings me to another reason "I" didn't opt for the 2SS. Electronics are great... but, not so much with cars. More potential headaches that leave you at the mercy of dealerships having the tools and equipment that may only be accessible through them. I have zero problem with paying attention and using my mirrors instead of relying on a light that may or not work down the road and you became too lax and get into an accident for not checking yourself when it doesn't work right.

Only thing I hate is the 1SS doesn't come with a HUD. That is one tech feature that I personally enjoy.

Different strokes for different folks. But, I don't think the advantages that a V6 has with fuel economy and etc is all that noteworthy these days with how efficient our V8's are now. Just my two cents and my own personal experience with my 2017.

Think of it this way, if you are paying 4-5 thousand less which almost every thousand is approximately 15 dollars more on your car payment... to get into a 2LT RS vs an SS... find out exactly what YOUR insurance will be. Some pay high due to their own personal variables. Not yours. How much do you eat out or spend your money on meaningless crap. For me the 1SS was what I wanted minus that HUD wasn't an option.

Evaluate and ask yourself why you even want a Camaro because the V6 is just fine. But, some here have chimed in and were concrete about what their needs where.

If you are already debating between the two... I see yourself hating the decision a year from now when you yearn for a V8. Get what you can afford and what you KNOW you want.


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Old 08-24-2017, 01:59 PM   #44
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I'm a little conflicted with some individuals perceptions. What may be a reality for some doesn't necessarily translate the same for others.

I traded in my 2016 Ecoboost Mustang for a 1SS. My insurance went up only 12 dollars with USAA. 4 cylinder to V8. 12 bucks. Gas? I average in my 2017 in the city mixed with occasional spirited runs: 18/23 MPG. Highway? 33/35 MPG. And my MPG is consistent with each fill up. Premium vs regular cost is approximately a 15/20 dollar difference.

Different strokes for different folks. But, I don't think the advantages that a V6 has with fuel economy and etc is all that noteworthy these days with how efficient our V8's are now. Just my two cents and my own personal experience with my 2017.

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Insurance differences depend highly on personal circumstances (age, record, etc...) I was in the same boat as you where my insurance increase was negligible. But we don't know the OP's situation. As for fuel, again highly dependent, but I agree this gen the fuel costs (and the price of gas) is closer. Another reason I decided on the V8 over V6. The tires and wear items are definitely going to be higher for a V8 though. Again why it would be good if the OP shared with us the reason for his budget.
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Old 08-24-2017, 02:13 PM   #45
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I'm a little conflicted with some individuals perceptions. What may be a reality for some doesn't necessarily translate the same for others.

I traded in my 2016 Ecoboost Mustang for a 1SS. My insurance went up only 12 dollars with USAA. 4 cylinder to V8. 12 bucks. Gas? I average in my 2017 in the city mixed with occasional spirited runs: 18/23 MPG. Highway? 33/35 MPG. And my MPG is consistent with each fill up. Premium vs regular cost is approximately a 15/20 dollar difference.

My 5th Gen SS couldn't even come close to touching the efficiency of my 6th Gen SS.
As SuperSound said, insurance rates are based on several different variables. Mine went up only $50 from a '09 V6 G8 to my '14 1LE SS but someone else's might go up $100-$200. How are you getting 33-35 mpg on the highway when its only rated at around 25 mpg on the highway? I know the ratings are not exactly accurate but that is a big difference.
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Old 08-24-2017, 02:29 PM   #46
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Old 08-24-2017, 02:34 PM   #47
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As SuperSound said, insurance rates are based on several different variables. Mine went up only $50 from a '09 V6 G8 to my '14 1LE SS but someone else's might go up $100-$200. How are you getting 33-35 mpg on the highway when its only rated at around 25 mpg on the highway? I know the ratings are not exactly accurate but that is a big difference.
He's probably using the MPG computer on the car, which in my experience is about 2mpg higher than actual. But I have managed a best of 36.6 on the gauge. Easily able to hit 30+, even at interstate speed. AFM with the A8 on level grades can make for some serious hypermiling
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Old 08-24-2017, 02:54 PM   #48
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V6 vs V8 Dilemma

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He's probably using the MPG computer on the car, which in my experience is about 2mpg higher than actual. But I have managed a best of 36.6 on the gauge. Easily able to hit 30+, even at interstate speed. AFM with the A8 on level grades can make for some serious hypermiling


Regardless if not crystal clear accurate, there is no refuting the efficiency that can be had. Yes, I use the computer to track my MPG and review at each fill up. So even if it's inaccurate by about 2 MPG, means I'm still doing above 32/33 on highway and 16/20 in city.

Also, manual is rated at 25 and auto is 28 on highway.


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Old 08-24-2017, 03:01 PM   #49
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And how is this even a discussion when the V6 is almost identical for rated MPG with the V8 with A8? Both are 28. 4 banger is 30


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Old 08-24-2017, 03:06 PM   #50
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Spirited driving and not redlining it every chance I get I'm getting 15.7 mpgs avg.

Smiles per gallon lol

Thankfully I have a beater car to beat around in and daily drive.
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Old 08-24-2017, 03:07 PM   #51
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I was originally going to get a v6 so I went out and test drove one. I also thought I might as well see what the v8 was like while there so I drove that one next. Wow! The difference was Night and Day. The v8 was so much more fun. Exclusively shopping for a v8 right now in my gen 6.
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Old 08-24-2017, 03:12 PM   #52
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And how is this even a discussion when the V6 is almost identical for rated MPG with the V8 with A8? Both are 28. 4 banger is 30


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They are almost identical, but there is a jump in fuel costs between the two. Around $600 more a year if you drive it to get the EPA numbers. But if you are driving a V8 like you should, I can guarantee you use use burn more gas than similar driving in the V6.

Regardless it is a valid discussion unless the OP says he's got the money to spend on the "extra" expenses. But this is definitely one of the areas they are very close in cost.

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Old 08-24-2017, 03:17 PM   #53
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Let's get real on the whole fuel economy thing. The difference is negligible and a moot point. If even one or two MPGs make your decision you should be looking at a used Civic because you clearly can't afford a new car. The difference between the V6 and V8 in the real world is no more than about 2 mpg. Hardly noticeable in your monthly budget.
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Old 08-24-2017, 03:54 PM   #54
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I have to admit I am extremely impressed with the MPG these SS's are getting. Although I have managed 42 MPG all highway in my V6 - That wasn't exactly a normal run. I did everything I could to obtain that and I was only doing it just to see how high it "could" go.. I honestly think in the right conditions I could get up to 45ish but its very difficult and dangerous driving in that manner on public roads where people are expecting you to do consistent speeds so in the real world..about 35ish all Highway.

Actually I didn't get my V6 for the fuel mileage, I got it because it was $10k cheaper than the SS at the time and I already had a Z28 at home and I just wanted a fun commuter car but now Im beginning to wonder if I made the right choice.. I have a certain itch for a 2SS and I dont know if I want to scratch it, or if I want to mod my 4th Gen Z28...
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Old 08-24-2017, 10:48 PM   #55
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Thanks all for the responses - really valuable and just this thread alone shows what a great community this is with respect for different views...

My background: I'm mid-40's, recently moved over from UK so used to European cars and looking for the thrill of American muscle. As much as I can manipulate spreadsheets to try and justify the creature comforts, having had bare bones cars in the past like a Lotus Elise I'd always prioritize the driving experience and am happy with a purer drive even if this will be my daily driver...

I'm test driving a 1SS on Saturday - it's the cheapest new 1SS in the area at 33K but it's A8 and (again coming from UK where 80% of new car sales are still manual) I think I'd prefer a 6MT. I'm not in a hurry but trying to compare the likely reduction in Camaro price over the next couple of months against the depreciation of my 2016 Focus ST that I'll look to sell/trade. Although I'm leaning to the V8, I do feel inspired to check out the V6 but really appreciate the details shared re: depreciation, running costs etc.

Thanks again all - looking forward to getting in at least some form of Camaro 6 before Christmas!

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Old 08-24-2017, 10:51 PM   #56
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The V6 is fun fast and more than competent for the street and you can actually use it. No regrets here
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