[KaBoom1701]

I'm hoping some peeps buy this car and never track it and realize the stiff ride on the roads and unload the car. I'll swoop in for 15-20k less and grab one.

[bkatzman]

Now I want my car built now. Order#VHZMWS

[Macaro]

Glad those "X" things on the wing are just stickers.

[GrimReaperSS]

Interesting to read the two different articles. The Car and Driver article mentioned that the brakes wouldnt last more than 5 laps, while MotorTrend made no mention of the brakes except for stopping distance. Personally I love the car, but it is not something I could really afford or actually use daily as I do my current 4th gen.
Side note on the Z/28 banter. Engine wise, Katech already has a 7.0 LT1 producing 700 hp and other have shown this Mercury racing powerplant. I understand theyre aftermarket suppliers and dont have to adhere to emissions regulations, but it sounds like soon no manufacturer will have to follow the regs with Trump eliminating the EPA. So with future regs being practically non-existant, these engines could be a factory possibility. Just sayin.

[waterman]

Motor Trend 06/27/17
Johnny Lieberman

"Let’s get the bad news out of the way. As a result of the decision to hard-mount the dampers to the car—and this is me being charitable—ride quality is not great. Being less kind—especially if you’re on ripped up, lumpy pavement—the ZL1 1LE’s ride flat-out sucks. It’s brutal, and over big bumps at speed, the rear end seems to run out of travel."

Single mode, hard mounted DSSV suspension.

What was he expecting?

I want to feel every nuance on the tarmac. Every crack and imperfection.
Keep me planted. Make me faster.
I need this machine!
Go ahead... rattle my guts loose and compress my spine!
The left may be hanging lower than the right.
At least I've got a pair.

[waterman]

Found some other articles that you guys may find interesting;

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...t-drive-review

http://www.autoblog.com/2017/06/27/2...-review-tile-1

http://www.automobilemag.com/news/fi...amaro-zl1-1le/

https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/auto/2...o-zl1/preview/

Enjoy.

[Gen_Nick3.8]

Originally Posted by Quinten_33

Motor1.com and Car and Driver also posted their articles.

Team Camaro just dropped the mic on the performance car scene. Racecar with luxury features for the price of the average Cayman. And the best part? Chevy won't limit the production of it. And you know Chevy Dealers won't have $15,000 markups like Ford dealers.

Very true a Dealer in Soflo had 5k off the ZL1 when they first arrived I was shocked!!! Extremely high volume dealer. GM really has it dealers on the right track

[hotlap]

This quote from Car and Driver says it all. Chevy/GM is building a reputation for serious performance cars that are attainable.


...and clearly. Chevy is no longer holding the Camaro back.

Chevrolet must have one hell of an overtime budget for its performance-vehicles department. In just the past few years, there have been SSs, Stingrays, 1LEs, Z51s, Z06s, ZR1s, ZL1s, and even V-6 models that have consistently rewritten the bang-for-buck equation. (To say nothing of fellow General Motors brand Cadillac and its immensely talented V models.)

...That ’Ring time puts the ZL1 1LE in the company of near-vaporware from carmakers such as Gumpert, Radical, and Donkervoort. The best part of this package is its asking price: $71,295. Very nearly anything else operating in this performance stratum is easily two or three times costlier; the next closest performer is a Corvette Z06 with the Z07 package, and even that performance value costs about $20,000 more.

[ChefBorOzzy]

Originally Posted by GrimReaperSS

Interesting to read the two different articles. The Car and Driver article mentioned that the brakes wouldnt last more than 5 laps, while MotorTrend made no mention of the brakes except for stopping distance. Personally I love the car, but it is not something I could really afford or actually use daily as I do my current 4th gen.
Side note on the Z/28 banter. Engine wise, Katech already has a 7.0 LT1 producing 700 hp and other have shown this Mercury racing powerplant. I understand theyre aftermarket suppliers and dont have to adhere to emissions regulations, but it sounds like soon no manufacturer will have to follow the regs with Trump eliminating the EPA. So with future regs being practically non-existant, these engines could be a factory possibility. Just sayin.

Brake fluid issue?

[Supercup]

Originally Posted by KaBoom1701

I'm hoping some peeps buy this car and never track it and realize the stiff ride on the roads and unload the car. I'll swoop in for 15-20k less and grab one.

+1

[flyinlow]

Originally Posted by waterman

Motor Trend 06/27/17
Johnny Lieberman

"Let’s get the bad news out of the way. As a result of the decision to hard-mount the dampers to the car—and this is me being charitable—ride quality is not great. Being less kind—especially if you’re on ripped up, lumpy pavement—the ZL1 1LE’s ride flat-out sucks. It’s brutal, and over big bumps at speed, the rear end seems to run out of travel."

Single mode, hard mounted DSSV suspension.

What was he expecting?

I want to feel every nuance on the tarmac. Every crack and imperfection.
Keep me planted. Make me faster.
I need this machine!
Go ahead... rattle my guts loose and compress my spine!
The left may be hanging lower than the right.
At least I've got a pair.

I think his intent was to re-enforce Al O.'s statement of this being a track car and be prepared for the ride quality on city streets. I was going to buy one but figured I should ride in a Z28 first. After riding in one, then adding in the solid mounted suspension, I new on the streets in MN it would be absolutely terrible and I don't do that many track days per year, so the standard ZL1 was the better option.

[whiteboyblues2001]

Originally Posted by unavailablezl1

The dealer today just verified it to me, that's all. The size of motor is not sure, but the horsepower is correct.

"Car and Driver has reported major changes are inbound for the sixth-generation Camaro Z/28 as the ZL1 1LE keeps the Camaro in a track prowess holding pattern. According to intel, General Motors is working on a naturally aspirated, 5.5-liter small block V8 that will push 700 hp. And that engine is supposedly being readied for the next Z/28 with an LT6 designation."

here is the link that is public.

http://gmauthority.com/blog/2017/03/...ock-v8-engine/

Just did a few calculations using the Voodoo as a reference point, and a 5.5L engine would need to rev to about 10,000 RPM's to put out 700HP. A 7.0L engine would need to rev to 8,000 RPM's. I would LOVE to see an N/A 700HP engine, but that is some tough sledding.

[whiteboyblues2001]

LOVE the video of the ZL1 1LE lapping the Nurburgring! Unbelievable! Great article. And I agree with the name criticism. All these three letter designations is crazy. I can order a Camaro 1LT or a Camaro with an LT1, but not a 1LT with an LT1. But I can get a 1LT with a 1LE. Okay, I have to sit down now, I'm getting dizzy.

[shaffe]

Originally Posted by ChefBorOzzy

Brake fluid issue?

That is almost what it sounds like. In the article they mentioned when they got to the 5th lap, the pedal travel got really long. Sounds like brake fade but no one else mentioned it so I would guess it was just the one they got.

Originally Posted by flyinlow

I think his intent was to re-enforce Al O.'s statement of this being a track car and be prepared for the ride quality on city streets. I was going to buy one but figured I should ride in a Z28 first. After riding in one, then adding in the solid mounted suspension, I new on the streets in MN it would be absolutely terrible and I don't do that many track days per year, so the standard ZL1 was the better option.

Agreed. I didn't his comment as a negative but more of hey this car handles grips and turns like its on rails but it comes at the price of a stiff ride that you may not like.