Break in Procedure - Page 4

brutusvk · 01-02-2016, 09:58 AM

And as far as "race motors", their break in is usually done on the dyno. They do not start it and send it to 7000 rpm. Been around engine building my whole life. If you want long term service break it in properly. If you are of the "go or blow" mentality and expect to rebuild ever 50th pass... harp on it right away after the cam is broke in.

mikeyg36 · 01-02-2016, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by fastball

Glad I'm never buying a car used - no, abused - by you.

Common sense tells you not to abuse a brand new engine, let alone mfg recommendations.

Yeah because using a car within it's limits is abuse. You still never answered my question.

ULTRAZLS1 · 01-02-2016, 10:30 AM

Guess no one read the article. I gave info to back up my claim.

It goes into detail as to why a decently hard break in is beneficial for performance, longetivity, oil usage etc.

The rings will not seat as well without some heat and load.

I'm not saying to run the car to redline from day one and hold it for ten minutes. Prolonged wot can be bad. Short bursts etc no problem. I just drive them as usual.

mikeyg36 · 01-02-2016, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

Guess no one read the article. I gave info to back up my claim.

It goes into detail as to why a decently hard break in is beneficial for performance, longetivity, oil usage etc.

The rings will not seat as well without some heat and load.

Ring seating is the most important part of the break in. In the old days you had to worry about clearances and tolerances between the parts of the engine as well as flat tappet cams, but that is no longer the case. You don't need to worry about breaking in a mild hydraulic roller cam, and the tolerances are so much better from the factory. The only thing that really needs to be broken in now are the rings.

neal_zack · 01-02-2016, 10:38 AM

im not syaying this is right but if you can make sense of this break in procedure it my help.http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm

fastball · 01-02-2016, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

Guess no one read the article. I gave info to back up my claim.

It goes into detail as to why a decently hard break in is beneficial for performance, longetivity, oil usage etc.

The rings will not seat as well without some heat and load.

I'm not saying to run the car to redline from day one and hold it for ten minutes. Prolonged wot can be bad. Short bursts etc no problem. I just drive them as usual.

People aren't paying attention to the article because it's amateur and written by someone akin to a snake oil salesman. Soon as you see the page you can tell it's written and put together by someone in their basement.

Post an article written by an certified engineer for a major automobile company backed by analitical data then people might pay attention.

fastball · 01-02-2016, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeyg36

Yeah because using a car within it's limits is abuse. You still never answered my question.

Your question is moot because we're talking about a production car, not a race car.

Huge difference.

ULTRAZLS1 · 01-02-2016, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by fastball

People aren't paying attention to the article because it's amateur and written by someone akin to a snake oil salesman. Soon as you see the page you can tell it's written and put together by someone in their basement.

Post an article written by an certified engineer for a major automobile company backed by analitical data then people might pay attention.

My link was data transferred from motorcyclist magazine.

Same thing was said in the last link from mototune website.

Same concept. He has before and after pictures etc proof of everything. Hundreds of examples.
I've seen that website before also.

The entire concept revolves around the rings. It's not hard to understand and applies to all engines that use piston rings. Race car, lawn mower, moped it doesn't matter. The rings seat better with heat and load. Give it some honest thought and you might see things a bit different.

What data do you have to back up a soft break in?

neal_zack · 01-02-2016, 02:07 PM

I would also like to see data on a soft breakin. cant we all just get along!

M12LRV · 01-02-2016, 02:18 PM

mikeyg36 · 01-02-2016, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by fastball

Your question is moot because we're talking about a production car, not a race car.

Huge difference.

Oh look you still haven't backed up your point with any evidence

PQ · 01-02-2016, 03:33 PM

I like pie.

I say drive it hard from the beginning and change the oil at 500 and 1500.

Not like abusive hard, but have fun right away.

Each to his own.

Jerks.

mikeyg36 · 01-02-2016, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by PQ

I like pie.

I say drive it hard from the beginning and change the oil at 500 and 1500.

Not like abusive hard, but have fun right away.

Each to his own.

Jerks.

PQ YOU TERRIBLE PERSON STOP RUINING YOUR CAR FOR THE NEXT OWNER

PQ · 01-02-2016, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeyg36

PQ YOU TERRIBLE PERSON STOP RUINING YOUR CAR FOR THE NEXT OWNER

The next owner of mine is going to love this car. But my stock break-in is long gone. lol

01-02-2016, 10:38 AM	#47
neal_zack Drives: 2016 camaro ss Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: spokane Posts: 329	im not syaying this is right but if you can make sense of this break in procedure it my help.http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm __________________ Summit white, 2SS, Ceramic white interior, 6 piston brakes, Black Bowties, 6 Speed,3.9 sec 0to60 NPP,MRC,NAV,RX Catch can

01-02-2016, 02:07 PM	#51
neal_zack Drives: 2016 camaro ss Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: spokane Posts: 329	I would also like to see data on a soft breakin. cant we all just get along! __________________ Summit white, 2SS, Ceramic white interior, 6 piston brakes, Black Bowties, 6 Speed,3.9 sec 0to60 NPP,MRC,NAV,RX Catch can

01-02-2016, 03:33 PM	#54
PQ Booooosted. Drives: 2010 Supercharged SS Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 36,716 View My Garage	I like pie. I say drive it hard from the beginning and change the oil at 500 and 1500. Not like abusive hard, but have fun right away. Each to his own. Jerks. __________________

01-02-2016, 09:58 AM	#43
brutusvk Drives: future 2016 SS Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Glendale, AZ Posts: 847	And as far as "race motors", their break in is usually done on the dyno. They do not start it and send it to 7000 rpm. Been around engine building my whole life. If you want long term service break it in properly. If you are of the "go or blow" mentality and expect to rebuild ever 50th pass... harp on it right away after the cam is broke in.

01-02-2016, 10:30 AM	#45
ULTRAZLS1 Drives: 14 Silverado LTZ Z71, 16 Camaro SS Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Jackson, Michigan Posts: 4,407	Guess no one read the article. I gave info to back up my claim. It goes into detail as to why a decently hard break in is beneficial for performance, longetivity, oil usage etc. The rings will not seat as well without some heat and load. I'm not saying to run the car to redline from day one and hold it for ten minutes. Prolonged wot can be bad. Short bursts etc no problem. I just drive them as usual.

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