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Old 12-13-2015, 12:36 PM   #43
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PLEASE GM, make the 1LE a '17...
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Old 12-13-2015, 08:51 PM   #44
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Simple competitive market economics .... The Shelby 350 has it as an option... Why would GM give up a competitive advantage?


MRC is already a SS option... It's not hard to have dedicated track shocks as standard on the 1LE package or have modified 1LE tuning of MRC as a seperate stand alone option apart from the 1LE package....


For those of you blessed with non stop warm weather a smooth, non frost heaved roads.... There are a lot of camaro enthusiasts that would love a 1LE and its hardcore handling for track runs and smooth roads...yet we have to contend with hellacious stretches of road on our commute... And can only afford one daily driver...

Detroit roads are a perfect example... Many roads in Canada are affected by huge variances in temperature as well...

Do I ask too much to have the OPTION of checking off the MRC box while als checking off the 1LE box?

Because the 1LE is a low volume option to increase the track capability of the Camaro. That's what it's been the whole time. Saying the 1LE needs MRC as an option would be like saying the ZL1 needs the V6 as an option.

Ford has always made DD capability a priority. That's why the Performance Package isn't as focused as the 1LE.
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Old 12-13-2015, 09:01 PM   #45
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Old 12-13-2015, 10:24 PM   #46
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A genuine 1LE package will likely include wheels/tires, brakes, suspension tweaks over the base SS suspension (or perhaps tweaked MRC suspension) and NPP exhaust. It may also include different gearing, and the new performance intake, and the front spoiler. Nothing else is needed.
As good as the sixth gen Camaro SS is already, I think the only things a 1LE needs are the gearing, a software change to make the MRC Track setting a bit better, and higher performance tires. Until/unless a performance gain from the NPP exhaust is realized like on Stingray, that can remain an option (though an obvious one), and perhaps the aero stuff can be a separate option to keep the basic 1LE package price down.

I hope the V6 gets some performance package love this time around (not that you care anymore since you're going up to a V8 this time - traitor! ). The SS getting comfortably into the 0-60 3's seems like an absolute eventuality with the previous generation's 3.91 gears, but the V6 is just so darned close to the 4's with 3.27's and run-flat all seasons, I don't see how the engineers at GM aren't straining at the leash to do it.
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Old 12-14-2015, 10:23 AM   #47
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The 1LE is was only $3,500. That's a great deal for a package that completely changed the performance of the SS.
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Old 12-14-2015, 11:54 AM   #48
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The 1LE is was only $3,500. That's a great deal for a package that completely changed the performance of the SS.
.... And that is even the understatement of this past decade. Excluding the far more expensive ZL1/Z-28, the 1LE package was nothing short of a miracle transformation for the SS.
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Old 12-14-2015, 01:51 PM   #49
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This new 6th gen is so good that a 1LEcould be: wider wheels/tires, comp shocks and some aero and gearing for 3k and less IMO. Leave the brakes as an option.
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Old 12-14-2015, 02:04 PM   #50
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This new 6th gen is so good that a 1LEcould be: wider wheels/tires, comp shocks and some aero and gearing for 3k and less IMO. Leave the brakes as an option.
I think the 1LE needs to be on par with the GT350 or even TP at the minimum. If the brakes are needed, I feel like they should be included.
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Old 12-14-2015, 02:08 PM   #51
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Yes. The brakes should be included for a truly track capable car. 5th gen 1le guys could easily smoke their oem break setups in a few sessions.
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Old 12-14-2015, 02:15 PM   #52
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I think the 1LE needs to be on par with the GT350 or even TP at the minimum. If the brakes are needed, I feel like they should be included.
Lets not forget the Recaros. I am specifically holding off buying on the whim that the Recaro seats from the future performace models will be optional on SS again. Im a autox junkie, the seats are a tremendous help.
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Old 12-14-2015, 05:52 PM   #53
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It's my hunch that the new 1LE with use or have MRC as an option . This is based on a few factors.

#1. MRC is no longer an elite option reserved for special edition GM models.

#2. MRC can be further tuned to provide what is needed for a hardcore track experience while keeping the ability of a superior DD. Think of an even more hardcore track mode, or an additional track mode ... " Track Mode Plus"

#3 the lower trim 350 has Magnetic Ride as an option

#4 I don't believe GM will be splitting their resources between two Z Camaro halo cars... We will get one Z car and the 1LE will get the some/ all of suspension pieces from that car. I think MRC has simply too much potential for GM to go with a super narrow track focussed conventional set up like the 5th Gen Z28.
Does it really make sense to use MRC on a 1le ? I highly doubt they would , I don't think Chevy is worried about how well the 1le is as a DD with the new SS being as good as it is . I think the Fe6 suspension or The DSSV from the z28 will do a much better job then MRC for what the 1le is all about.The 1le is not for everyone and I hope they keep it that way. The 2% as Al O has said .
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Old 12-14-2015, 06:23 PM   #54
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Does it really make sense to use MRC on a 1le ? I highly doubt they would , I don't think Chevy is worried about how well the 1le is as a DD with the new SS being as good as it is . I think the Fe6 suspension or The DSSV from the z28 will do a much better job then MRC for what the 1le is all about.The 1le is not for everyone and I hope they keep it that way. The 2% as Al O has said .
I agree 100%. I love the ride of my 1LE and wouldn't change it at all.
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Old 12-14-2015, 08:49 PM   #55
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Recaros are a must for sure. I would prefer mrc remain an option. The z28 suspension would be ideal.
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Old 12-14-2015, 09:31 PM   #56
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Does it really make sense to use MRC on a 1le ? I highly doubt they would , I don't think Chevy is worried about how well the 1le is as a DD with the new SS being as good as it is . I think the Fe6 suspension or The DSSV from the z28 will do a much better job then MRC for what the 1le is all about.The 1le is not for everyone and I hope they keep it that way. The 2% as Al O has said .
The MRC derived from Corvettes and Cadillac CTS-V's is currently used in Ferrari's and several other exotics along with the Shelby GT-350. In my ZL1, I am able to go from a touring soft ride to track stiff with the press of a button. I have ridden in a Z-28 and the MRC in track mode is just as stiff but able to recover quicker. The difference in MRC modes in the C7 Z51 Corvette is even more dramatic. I love my ZL1 but I am looking forward to seeing what the 1LE with 6 piston Brembos, MRC and Recaros will look like.
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