Motor Trend: 2016 Camaro 2SS vs. Mustang GT Incoming - Page 4

SuperSound · 09-27-2015, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ilirg

Basically the, GT500 beat the Zl1 in every performance metric except for braking and around the track by a bit from what I remember, And the rag said the gt500 felt scary and out of control and the zl1 felt like the better street car. While that is probably pretty accurate description of the cars, they should have given the gt500 more credit than they did.

And then the Hellcat only wins in the straight line so they give the win to it over the ZL1. Classic useless bias reviews.The GT500 is a much better car than the Hellcat overall.

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ChefBorOzzy · 09-27-2015, 10:14 AM

Good Lord, people.

The ZL1 was slower than the GT500 by a good margin on their best runs in a straight line. Other than that, it's a better car on the road. It's a better car if you want to do multiple laps on the track. The GT500 brakes ended up not holding up. So, what's the problem? ALl I see is Mustang people saying that Chevy's are one lap cars and suck in real world.. Well, here goes your 2 lap GT500.

The Hellcat is also fast in a straight line. It's also a better daily driver by far than a GT500. So they picked it over a ZL1. What's the problem? You can look at performance stats and pick by that or you can take subjective opinion into it as well.

DenverTaco07 · 09-27-2015, 04:47 PM

I guess as long as they are qualifying their results I wouldn't have a problem with it.

Before I decided I wanted a ZL1, for 3 or so years all I looked at was the GT500, the HP number was what was so attractive to me. But after reading tons of reviews, watching endless video reviews etc. I came to the conclusion that the ZL1 was the better car for me.

SuperSound · 09-27-2015, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ChefBorOzzy

Good Lord, people.

The ZL1 was slower than the GT500 by a good margin on their best runs in a straight line. Other than that, it's a better car on the road. It's a better car if you want to do multiple laps on the track. The GT500 brakes ended up not holding up. So, what's the problem? ALl I see is Mustang people saying that Chevy's are one lap cars and suck in real world.. Well, here goes your 2 lap GT500.

The Hellcat is also fast in a straight line. It's also a better daily driver by far than a GT500. So they picked it over a ZL1. What's the problem? You can look at performance stats and pick by that or you can take subjective opinion into it as well.

That's my point. How does the Hellcat get the nod if the only thing it was better at was straight line. Hell they put the GT500 on the track for a hotlap. What did they do for the Hellcat, a point to point with baby curves and it still didn't do it any faster than the ZL1. One biased review means likely more biased reviews...but obviously they don't show bias to GM.

The Hellcat is a one trick pony compared to the ZL1 and GT500. It's absence from any sort of track day is proof of this.

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Zack46 · 09-27-2015, 08:28 PM

This should be interesting.

RenegadeXR · 09-27-2015, 10:09 PM

As others already said, looks like this is a Mustang GT Premium in Triple Yellow with the Performance Pack — MSRP = $40,985. The lack of the spoiler specifically gives this away.

I think we know the Camaro SS is going to win out in most performance metrics. I assumed the price difference would be a talking point, but the two cars should end up having a similar MSRP for how they are equipped.

1sspat · 09-29-2015, 11:25 PM

Yeah that mustang is for sure the performance pack. Which only makes sense. They need to make the comparison as close as possible, although I don't think there is a shot in hell for the stang.

A Mustang was my first car, but my Camaro was and still is my favorite car I have ever owned. Looking forward to the continued battle between these two amazing cars!

IOMike · 09-30-2015, 05:15 PM

I don't get why some people feel magazine comparisons are the end all deciding factor of what's better. It's nothing more than a group of guys or gals, like us, sitting down and saying what they like more. Qualifiers or not, they're opinions and should be treated as such. Something to take note of, think about and consider.

The stats and pics are the best part.

newb · 10-22-2015, 11:31 AM

So other than one person in an airport who managed to get 2 pics of this article before running off to catch a flight, no one has seen this on the shelf?

Jeffro19 · 10-22-2015, 11:33 AM

Yeah I am curious when this head 2 head will come out? Would like to see videos as well.

LesserO2Evils · 10-22-2015, 11:56 AM

Damn tease....
Lol

newb · 10-22-2015, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffro19

Yeah I am curious when this head 2 head will come out? Would like to see videos as well.

A new H2H came out yesterday so it will be a month before the video version hits.

GTIanZ28 · 10-22-2015, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by newb

A new H2H came out yesterday so it will be a month before the video version hits.

????
Are you saying that you got the magazine?
I haven't seen anything online or here in the forums.

newb · 10-22-2015, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by GTIanZ28

????
Are you saying that you got the magazine?
I haven't seen anything online or here in the forums.

No. On youtube Motor Trend has the Head2Head series. I thought that is what you were referring to. They only come out monthly I believe and they just posted a new one. Not the Camaro vs Mustang one people were hoping for

09-27-2015, 04:47 PM	#45
DenverTaco07 Drives: 2017 SS 1LE, 2017 Volt, 2013 Pilot Join Date: May 2014 Location: Colorado Posts: 4,274	I guess as long as they are qualifying their results I wouldn't have a problem with it. Before I decided I wanted a ZL1, for 3 or so years all I looked at was the GT500, the HP number was what was so attractive to me. But after reading tons of reviews, watching endless video reviews etc. I came to the conclusion that the ZL1 was the better car for me. __________________ 2017 SS 1LE \| HBM \| Vortech V3-Si supercharger (620RWHP and 575ft lbs) \| PDR \| Black Bowties \| Illuminated Front Black Bowtie \| Illuminated Door Sills \| Smoked Tails \| vented seats mod

09-27-2015, 08:28 PM	#47
Zack46 Drives: 2018 2SS Camaro Hot Wheels Edition Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 2,814	This should be interesting. __________________ Zack46 2018 Camaro 2SS Orange Crush Hot Wheels Limited Edition Power Sunroof, 8 Speed Auto/Remote Start, NPP Exhaust Production Sequence Number 98 **NEOCC Camaro Club Member** Former Ride: 2016 Camaro 2LT RS V6 Hyper Blue Metallic

10-22-2015, 11:31 AM	#51
newb Drives: 2013 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: DMV Posts: 1,548	So other than one person in an airport who managed to get 2 pics of this article before running off to catch a flight, no one has seen this on the shelf? __________________ It's a Dingledarm. It's there to dampen side fumbling. If your marzelvanes fumble too much they can cause total protonic reversal. It gets ugly from there. This is really the biggest problem with the new Camaro. That and the tri-pronged blivot. Delivered 21 Jan 2013

10-22-2015, 11:33 AM	#52
Jeffro19 Drives: 2018 ZL1 6M, Silverado High Country Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: San Antonio, Tx Posts: 2,101	Yeah I am curious when this head 2 head will come out? Would like to see videos as well. __________________ Previous Camaro's - 2002 Z28 6 spd manual, T tops, Sebring Silver - 2010 2SS 6 spd manual, Cyber Gray Metallic Current Vehicles - 2018 ZL1 Red Hot 6 spd manual, Carbon Hood, Sunroof 2019 Silverado High Country, Daily Driver

10-22-2015, 11:56 AM	#53
LesserO2Evils GM repeat offender... Drives: 16 2SS Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Grandview, Texas Posts: 1,474	Damn tease.... Lol __________________ '16 2SS, Summit White. A8. MRC. NPP. Ordered:09/03/15. Received 12/22/15 INCOMING: ‘22 ZL1, Satin Steel. A10. PDR. Ordered: 03/02/22.

09-27-2015, 10:14 AM	#44
ChefBorOzzy Drives: 2016 F150 Join Date: May 2014 Location: Iowa Posts: 2,196	Good Lord, people. The ZL1 was slower than the GT500 by a good margin on their best runs in a straight line. Other than that, it's a better car on the road. It's a better car if you want to do multiple laps on the track. The GT500 brakes ended up not holding up. So, what's the problem? ALl I see is Mustang people saying that Chevy's are one lap cars and suck in real world.. Well, here goes your 2 lap GT500. The Hellcat is also fast in a straight line. It's also a better daily driver by far than a GT500. So they picked it over a ZL1. What's the problem? You can look at performance stats and pick by that or you can take subjective opinion into it as well.

09-27-2015, 10:09 PM	#48
RenegadeXR Drives: 2011 Camaro SS Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,850	As others already said, looks like this is a Mustang GT Premium in Triple Yellow with the Performance Pack — MSRP = $40,985. The lack of the spoiler specifically gives this away. I think we know the Camaro SS is going to win out in most performance metrics. I assumed the price difference would be a talking point, but the two cars should end up having a similar MSRP for how they are equipped.

09-29-2015, 11:25 PM	#49
1sspat Tampa Gulf Coast Family Drives: 2016 2SS, 6SP, NPP, MRC, NAV Join Date: May 2010 Location: Bradenton, FL Posts: 412 View My Garage	Yeah that mustang is for sure the performance pack. Which only makes sense. They need to make the comparison as close as possible, although I don't think there is a shot in hell for the stang. A Mustang was my first car, but my Camaro was and still is my favorite car I have ever owned. Looking forward to the continued battle between these two amazing cars!

09-30-2015, 05:15 PM	#50
IOMike Drives: 2022 F150, 87 Monte Carlo Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: MN Posts: 1,267	I don't get why some people feel magazine comparisons are the end all deciding factor of what's better. It's nothing more than a group of guys or gals, like us, sitting down and saying what they like more. Qualifiers or not, they're opinions and should be treated as such. Something to take note of, think about and consider. The stats and pics are the best part.

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