[EchoSide]

Originally Posted by DanaM

Just called my guy at Jack Maxton Chevrolet and let him know I will have no Dealer markup. He may not return my call now. :-(

I won't buy a car unless it's under invoice...I have bought locally, 5 between me and my GF and I and arranged dozen deals for friends and family...

The local process is pretty easy and takes one hour, (you call the internet manager or fleet manager, ask for their email and email them requesting that they bid; once you get the lowest offer you go back and email all the higher offers and see if they're willing to counter) however, with a performance cars first year of production, the process while it will get you the best local deal, won't work...Yet I suppose you could do an internet search of the top Camaro selling dealerships and hopefully have one that's within a day's drive...

Remember, even at MSRP dealers can charge a variety of fees...Doc, Prep, Delivery, Bank, Advertising, etc...Then it can get even shadier...Some dealers will mandate that every car they sell will have to get their $599 BS paint sealer (they say they do it as a favor to you to ensure you're new baby's paint is protected) or have to get their $300 VIN etching...

Lastly there's jacking up the finance rates and low balling your trade-in...And people wonder why folks hate the dealership experience...

[ender2664]

Originally Posted by EchoSide

I won't buy a car unless it's under invoice...I have bought locally, 5 between me and my GF and I and arranged dozen deals for friends and family...

The local process is pretty easy and takes one hour, (you call the internet manager or fleet manager, ask for their email and email them requesting that they bid; once you get the lowest offer you go back and email all the higher offers and see if they're willing to counter) however, with a performance cars first year of production, the process while it will get you the best local deal, won't work...Yet I suppose you could do an internet search of the top Camaro selling dealerships and hopefully have one that's within a day's drive...

Remember, even at MSRP dealers can charge a variety of fees...Doc, Prep, Delivery, Bank, Advertising, etc...Then it can get even shadier...Some dealers will mandate that every car they sell will have to get their $599 BS paint sealer (they say they do it as a favor to you to ensure you're new baby's paint is protected) or have to get their $300 VIN etching...

Lastly there's jacking up the finance rates and low balling your trade-in...And people wonder why folks hate the dealership experience...

You can thank the government for letting u experience the wonderful dealer experience :(

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[EchoSide]

Originally Posted by ender2664

You can thank the government for letting u experience the wonderful dealer experience :(

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You're right but I think the landscape is changing...Saturn had no haggle and people generally loved it...Today you have CarMax, Scion & Tesla and now even Lexus has announced they're doing a test run of 12 dealerships to gather data to see if it's successful...The #2 car "seller" in America right now is, wait for it, Costco! While they don't actually sell cars, they force dealers to sell at fixed prices...I predict this trend growing, however who knows, in 20 years the majority of people might not even own a car and will be using an Uber owned self-driving Tesla to commute...

But the good and bad is how much the dealership charges for no haggle...As stated you can buy a car under invoice and the dealer can still make a profit...Often no haggle charge $500 over invoice to $500 under MSRP

[laborsmith]

Good for your argument that Saturn ranks amongst the most profit generating of all GM's divisions. And that Tesla-s profits have outpaced the auto industry worldwide.

But if you include court decisions as government inspired than I bow to your industry acuity.

Laborsmith

[ender2664]

The court by definition is the government.

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[laborsmith]

Yep. So unintended true.


Blame the Iroquois Nation's influence on Ben Franklin and the drafting of a Constitution that includes a Supreme Court.

Reject as you will but please do a search before going off halfcocked.

Laborsmith

[ender2664]

What r u babbling on about?

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[SSport16]

Originally Posted by ender2664

What r u babbling on about?

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Just more liberal commi crap...