05-21-2015, 12:03 PM | #43 |
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I think if GM could have made a n/a high revving small block with the power they wanted..they would have for the Z06
But they couldn't, they said as much. Unless GM goes more exotic aka the 5.2 FPC in the GT350 I doubt you'll see a n/a Z anything this generation |
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In regards to specific Z28 sales, it was a failure..
In regards to what the Z28 did for GM, it was a resounding success... The Z28 created a buzz for GM and the money they spent on it should be considered marketing costs... The buzz wasnt as loud as the hellcat but the car rags were comparing the Z28 to the Porsche 911 turbo and the GTR. That is huge and it gets you some traction. When you are in the company of those giants it makes a ripple in the market...I know people that visited the lot just to look at the z28 that hadnt stepped on a Chevy lot in decades. |
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I'm going to take a SWAG (superficial wild ass guess) and say they are going to build a z28 in lieu of another z/28. Yes, there is a difference.
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I think Chevy benefited from the Z/28 and did the right thing with the options. Like the original 1LE you cannot buy comfort/gadget options so only people who want a track animal will buy it. No one who owns a Z/28 complains about it. They knew what they were buying. And most of these buyers have big money, so many Z/28s will wind up in track garages.
Also the release of the Z/28 gave Chevy a lot of play in the media. The fact that Z/28s are now slow movers will not hurt all the cred they got with the car as a few hundred cars lying around is no big deal in the car industry. As mentioned above the only mistake Chevy made was allowing so many to be built. It should have been customer orders only and only allow pre-sales orders from dealers with a Hi-Po rep. I think every vehicle program at GM has to make money and the only way to do that is to sell a bunch of Z/28s. If true it is the only way the car could have been built would be to let the orders flow. The people behind the Z/28 were passionate people who wanted to build an unforgettable car. They got it done. But remember this, back in the day almost no one wanted to pony up the extra $$ for the L88. Boy it would be nice to have one in the garage now. They made too many Z/28s for that but it will be the rarest 5th gen. I expect the price to drop into the $40Ks and then hold on from there. Don't expect a CA6 repeat.
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However, I don't think we will see another engine developed only for the Camaro. If GM builds a Grand Sport Corvette, that could be where they develop an LT1 based, higher performance small block.
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The 302 was not available in any other car because no other car needed it. The 302 was built for a specific reason that only applied to the Z/28. The ATS-V has a TTV6 because it is going after the Germans which are going to all small displacement, turbo engines. The Camaro is not so there is no reason to put the TTV6 in a Camaro.
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I love all this talk about the Z being an overpriced miss- which it was. Eerily similar to the 69 ZL1, where the RPO equalled the price of the whole car! It is my firm belief they will do another round of 20% off on these to end the pain for dealers paying flooring $$ the one's remaining. I will buy another one just to drive as my current one is in deep storage already. If there ever was a future collectible staring you right in the face it's this one. End of an amazing 50 year run for the Big cube.
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I'm also in agreement that there will be something above the LT1 that is NA. Similar to the LS1-LS6 and it will also find itself in a Corvette and or a ATS-V PLUS (or whatever they call it).
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What about a Gen6 COPO??
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The problem is that there is only a small market of people who want a super track star Camaro. GM could have watered it down and dropped the price by 30 grand and sold a lot more, but why bother? At that point, you've basically gotten down to a 1LE.
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