View Poll Results: Do you think the UAW is taking the correct action? | |||
Hell Yes! Keep U.S. Jobs in the U.S. | 5 | 16.67% | |
Hell No! Stop screwing GM and get back to work! | 7 | 23.33% | |
Just build my damn Camaro. | 18 | 60.00% | |
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09-26-2007, 11:32 AM | #43 | |
This author is talking about the same topic of "laid off" workers, but they word it much more clearly.
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09-26-2007, 11:59 AM | #44 |
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hmm...well very glad to know it's all over!!!!!
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09-26-2007, 12:37 PM | #45 |
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ooh!!! I'm out of the loop...well, What did they finally agree on?
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09-26-2007, 10:42 PM | #46 |
09-27-2007, 07:35 AM | #47 | |
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Posted Sep 26th 2007 11:35AM by John Neff Filed under: GM, Earnings/Financials, UAW/Unions The GM strike lasted less than 40 hours, not even two full days. For UAW president Ron Gettelfinger, however, it was just enough time to secure for his members the concessions he wanted. So which side blinked after 40 hours of staring the other down? It's tough to tell, but the UAW's main sticking point was job security, and it was looking for a guarantee that production for new models wouldn't be moved outside the United States. This is the issue that initiated the strike, and it appears that GM did change its mind and offer the UAW some type of broad job guarantee for the duration of this 4-year contract. Here's how the whole deal breaks down as we see it. UAW got: An independent retiree health care trust that will be funded with enough money from GM to remain solvent for 80 years Undisclosed job guarantees that we expect includes a promise of investment in particular U.S. plants in preparation for production of new models GM will hire up to 5,000 temporary workers as full-time employees Signing bonuses of an undisclosed amount for all UAW members who sign the contract Wage increases of 3% in first year, 4% in second and 3% in third GM got: $50 billion in health care liability off its back after a large one-time payout into independent retiree health care trust Two-tier wage structure, as those 5,000 new hires who were previously temp will be brought in at their current wage of $18/hour, rather than the $28/hour current full-timers earn Undisclosed revisions in the Jobs Bank program that continues to pay laid-off employees Reduction in labor cost to produce vehicles, though might not be realized right away Next up for the UAW is either Ford Motor Company or Chrysler LLC. It has yet to decide which of the remaining domestics it will negotiate with next, but we're anxious to see if one contract already in place will make the next two go smoother. [Source: http://www.autoblog.com/tag/strike/] |
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09-27-2007, 07:53 AM | #48 | |
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$28 per hour?
Then why did I hear 45, or something high, somewhere... and I don't know about the rest of you - but this particular note kinda makes me happy: Quote:
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09-27-2007, 08:00 AM | #49 | |
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What is keeping the Ford, Toyota, Nissan, etc. employees happy???
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09-27-2007, 08:04 AM | #50 |
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US-based Toyota workers aren't happy...
Remember that article a while back about them trying to form thier own Union, because the Toyota management was treating them like crap? and Ford...the UAW just hasn't targeted them yet...It's all the same UAW (for the domestics). |
09-27-2007, 10:23 AM | #51 |
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$45 an hour??? Are you serious???
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09-27-2007, 03:47 PM | #52 |
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According to ABC news anyway, they said that the GM Union Workers are getting paid $45 an hour... Why am I even going to school?! I can go 20 miles down the road to Bowling Green and work at the Corvette plant!! lol
They also said yesterday evening on the ABC News that Retirees from GM and the UAW have better health insurance than current employees...
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09-27-2007, 04:02 PM | #53 |
that's $45 an hour when you factor in the benefits and bonuses. Most line workers make around $28 an hour. Which still sounds pretty decent to me. I wouldn't be complaining.
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09-27-2007, 04:20 PM | #54 | |
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That's what kills me.....you hear all those striking workers..."we just want what's fair". Fair? You make 90K a year, your healthcare coverage is very good, your vacation time is incredible, great pension after you retire, all that, and then you have the audacity to demand guaranteed jobs. On top of that, you walk off the job when you don't get exactly what you want only to have your job still waiting for you when you decide to come back. BS....I don't make that much money, I don't get those great benefits, I don't get that pension (or any for that matter), I can't demand a guaranteed job. And, if I walked off the job because my "demands" were not met, there is no way in hell I could just come back after I gave in on my demands. Fair. Seems to me, the union workers have a very jaded view of what's fair. How about giving me a 500+ HP Camaro for $25K that will get in the low 20's for mpg, not cost me an arm and a leg for insurance, with a good build quality...then we'll revisit their viewpoint of fair. |
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09-27-2007, 04:38 PM | #55 |
Amen to that.
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09-27-2007, 09:12 PM | #56 | |
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And why do we tell our kids to stay in school? Almost makes me want the us auto industry to collapse into a cesspool ..
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