09-16-2021, 09:08 AM | #43 |
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Cadillac already announced production will continue to at least the 2024 model year. They will make as many as they can considering the current chip restraints.
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09-16-2021, 09:11 AM | #44 |
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Plenty of dealers in the USA ordering these cars for MSRP.
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09-16-2021, 10:31 AM | #45 | |
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How else does a '21 911 Turbo S that weighs 3,630 lbs and has "only" 640 hp, beat a Shelby GT500 from a roll despite a worse power to weight ratio? Or, how does the new M3 Competition that weighs 3,800 lbs and has "only" 503 hp trap 125 mph in the 1/4 mile (Motor trend got 125.6 mph with a lighter car and C&D went 124 mph with a heavier car)? It also traps several mph more than a C8, despite having similar hp ratings and being 150-200 lbs heavier than the C8. Or the 2018 911 GT2 RS that has the "same" power to weight ratio as a 2019 ZR1 (4.8 lbs/hp), but traps 140 mph compared to 131 mph by the ZR1 in the same comparison test. Obviously, the German cars are rated differently than the American cars.
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09-16-2021, 10:38 AM | #46 | |
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Main point is the new M3/4 is putting down about 500 wheel on a dyno which is very impressive for a 3 L |
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09-16-2021, 10:49 AM | #47 |
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I love the Caddy CT5 V Blackwing honestly.....but the price ....not so much
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09-16-2021, 11:03 AM | #48 | |
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09-16-2021, 12:27 PM | #49 | |
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Even the E46 M3, which was known for bearing failures, is one of the most competitive track cars to this day, especially on technical tracks. Say what you want about the greatness of the original M3 which I love and agree is the best looking, the E46 M3 was the best balanced and overall IMO. Some of these motors have 100k miles and are still running strong, bearings have been replaced without engine removal which keeps it fairly cheap. |
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09-16-2021, 12:34 PM | #50 |
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While the E46 is decent (with proper oil and bearing service, 10W-60 is just dumb) I'd take an SS 1LE any day for the track if you're going the n/a route. See C&D Lightning Lap "every car"
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09-16-2021, 12:51 PM | #52 | |
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The track rats love the E46, of course a fresh SS1LE is a nice car on track. The E46 M3 is an all time great |
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09-16-2021, 01:01 PM | #53 | |
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Lightning Lap is useful to compare stock cars - trying to compare modded cars is worthless speculation. An SS1LE kicks the sh*t out of your beloved E46 stock for stock, I don't care what track it is - period. You sound like another BMW fanboi who thinks those cars walk on water
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09-16-2021, 01:57 PM | #55 | |
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I'm not a fanboi, I'm a ZL1 guy. I just know what they can do on technical track in the hands of a great driver based on what I've watched them do dozens of days, and you don't. |
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09-16-2021, 02:54 PM | #56 | |
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