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^ This, Ford should be moving on to the 6th gen Mustang in 2015 if I am not mistaken, because the 5th gen Mustang debut'd in 2004 began production in 2005.
I think waiting till 2016 is going to be bad enough I was hoping they would come out with the 6th Gen Camaro in 2015. But I can understand waiting until 2016 just because the car will only be 6 years old at that point.
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6th gen will probably arrive sometime in 2015 for the 2016 model year.
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6th gen Camaro for 2016 model year.
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I believe Ford will be bringing a new Mustang next year as that will be the 50th annv.for the car.I can't see Ford waiting much longer than that,how many diehard Mustang fans would be pissed if they skipped the 50th year mark,so Chevy will answer the Mustang in 2015 in Detroit and may even introduce the car later in the year as a 2017 model for a 50th annv model for Camaro.Hey stranger things have happened,I bought a 2002 TB in early 01.So it doesn't matter if you're in a hurry or not Chevrolet will bring it when they're ready.
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Mechanically the 6th gen is going to be a better car, but after seeing the "refresh" I'm more than a little worried about the looks. The back of the 2014 refresh looks boring and cheap; it doesn't look exotic, powerful, muscular or exciting in any way, shape or form. The front's "okay" but a bit out-of-balance in the design elements. The hood bulge is too wide, the hood vent looks like an after-market JC Whitney-esque add-on. I understand and agree with the value of the hood vent, just not thrilled with the design/looks.
While a muscle car is clearly about performance, it's also a serious style statement. The key word is "muscle". The designer responsible for the 5th gen understood and delivered a gorgeous, powerful, muscular design that I love to look at every time I walk into my garage. The 2014 refresh looks like 4 different committees worked on it; one for the lower front, one for the upper front, one for the hood, and one for the rear of the car. Those 4 areas do not match in look, style or feel. That's a problem and a style/design weakness. A car design should be masterminded by one designer who "gets it" and has a clear vision of how it should look and feel. The 5th gen concept car and resulting production car clearly demonstrates what that ideal produces. Design by committee is always the lesser product. GM Management if you read this PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE have the vision and courage to give the 6th gen design to a single designer who understands what "muscle" looks like and designs the car accordingly. You did it with the 5th gen, you can do it again. Look at how the "risk" you took paid off with the 5th gen; in reality, it wasn't a risk at all which is the lesson you should be taking away from the experience with 5th gen sales. A bold, muscular design should also have bold colors; don't chicken-out and put tame, "toned-down" colors on an exciting car. Pick a stop-you-dead-in-your-tracks blue; a rocking kick-ass orange; a deep ooh-aah exciting red; a solid 'this is a race car' yellow; a shimmering buttery silver; a supernatural foam white; and of course, a deep-space obsidian black. These should be people-stopping-and-taking-pictures kind of colors. Pull all the stops out; financially this is a bread and butter car for you. Don't get gimmicky and don't chicken out. Do NOT "compete" with anybody; don't let other companies dictate what you do. Have a clear vision of what YOU would like to own and drive, then make it happen.
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..with the Gen 5 Camaro, Mr. Welburn secretly used two design teams, the one not chosen designed the Volt. I trust some similar method of design will be used for the Gen 6 Camaro. I thought that was very clever in what he did.
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The re-design is growing on me... the tailights seem to be going the direction of the 67'-69', whereas the first 5th gen 10-13 has had tails reminscent of the 71'.
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AMEN BROTHER!! Took the words right out of my mouth. You listening GM? If I had one thing to add...just for grins....I'd say skip the idea that the Camaro has to incorporate the current "brand look" or Chevy design trend that say your other bread and butter cars like Cruise, Malibu, or Impala may all share in some way or another. Keep the Camaro unique! Thats what we like about it! Keep it bold.
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The same designer could absolutely improve his designs if given the free reign to do so and IF he's a true Camaro enthusiast who hasn't gotten bored with it already. Look at what Apple's Jonathan Ive is able to do with his own designs generation after generation. Given the improvements in materials and technology in the last 7 years the same guy who masterminded the 5th gen could do a quite brilliant evolution to the 6th gen. I really hope we see an inspired-individual design; not a compromised "corporate" design.
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The guy who designed the 5th gen works for Audi now.
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Bummer. Great for them, not so great for Chevy. That guy really understood integrating sculpted lines not only for the outside shape but also within the shape as well. The hood area of the 5th gen was a masterpiece of sculpted beauty. You can sure see the difference in the 2014 refresh with a too-wide hood bulge and the after-market looking hood vent.
There's got to be some good design talent out there in the ranks of the Camaro/Vette owners. Maybe have a contest where owners and fans can submit their ideas. See what they come up with...might be some great ideas lurking out there.
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