NicKey ZL1 Stage II Option w/Port injection - Page 4

NicKey · 05-02-2023, 12:09 AM

We have a DSX 255 LPH aux pump on this car. With e80 the fuel pressure is just starting to drop, so we are at the limits of that pump.

DSX offers an upgrade to a 320LPH pump for $50.00 extra.

RobZL1 · 05-02-2023, 05:41 PM

Always amazing to see 4-digits with somewhat simple mods these days. Gotta love modern engines. 1000 is the new 800 (which was the new 600 not so long ago)

With these big builds, what do you guys do for catch cans and/or breathers? I know in past videos you mentioned you like the Tracy Lewis design. I think those designs are likely the best out there for non-WOT operation.

For WOT, particularly in boosted applications, I feel like that design has some potential for improvement in terms of evacuating rapidly building crankcase pressure. I think the MM design does it better in that regard.

I think the Tracy Lewis design with a checked breather on the can, or adding an extra checked breather on a valve cover might be the way to go. I'm curious where you guys land on the topic. Around here, I know catch cans are almost as hot a topic as which oil to use, though, so I hope I don't derail the thread too much!

RobZL1 · 05-09-2023, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RobZL1

Always amazing to see 4-digits with somewhat simple mods these days. Gotta love modern engines. 1000 is the new 800 (which was the new 600 not so long ago)

With these big builds, what do you guys do for catch cans and/or breathers? I know in past videos you mentioned you like the Tracy Lewis design. I think those designs are likely the best out there for non-WOT operation.

For WOT, particularly in boosted applications, I feel like that design has some potential for improvement in terms of evacuating rapidly building crankcase pressure. I think the MM design does it better in that regard.

I think the Tracy Lewis design with a checked breather on the can, or adding an extra checked breather on a valve cover might be the way to go. I'm curious where you guys land on the topic. Around here, I know catch cans are almost as hot a topic as which oil to use, though, so I hope I don't derail the thread too much!

Just bringing this back up. Hey @NickeyMatt1LE, what do you guys use for a catch can for these high HP builds? Just a Tracy Lewis / Elite E2X Ultra style setup with the two vacuum sources, or do you use some sort of backup vent in addition? Lots of opinion that there are tons of blown seals with high boost and that design can. What is your experience? Thanks!!

JSH · 05-09-2023, 07:03 PM

My blower is all set up for port injection and I thought about doing it but I'm wondering who the best shop in the country is at doing PI? Can I run 104 or 108 octane with it?

JSH · 05-09-2023, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by RobZL1

Just bringing this back up. Hey @NickeyMatt1LE, what do you guys use for a catch can for these high HP builds? Just a Tracy Lewis / Elite E2X Ultra style setup with the two vacuum sources, or do you use some sort of backup vent in addition? Lots of opinion that there are tons of blown seals with high boost and that design can. What is your experience? Thanks!!

Mine has a MM but only collects tsp every few months

RobZL1 · 05-12-2023, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JSH

Mine has a MM but only collects tsp every few months

I ordered the E2X Ultra. We'll see how it goes. I saw someone here said they are running 15-16 psi with it without issue. If the seals blow, then it's cam time. LOL

NicKey · 07-17-2023, 05:56 PM

We are using the Tracy Lewis Catch Cans on street and drag applications along with the TL check valve, but are not using catch cans in road race applications. Please start another thread for more detailed discussions.

NicKey · 07-17-2023, 05:58 PM

Here is our most recent NicKey Performance ZL1 1LE Magnuson 2650 with Too High PSI port injection kit.

Owl3 · 07-17-2023, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by NicKey

Here is our most recent NicKey Performance ZL1 1LE Magnuson 2650 with Too High PSI port injection kit.

What was the max boost, and is there anything more left?

NicKey · 07-17-2023, 06:19 PM

Max boost was approx 15lbs. We did use some heads which flowed real well. We incorporated a smaller pulley and gained approx 1.5 lbs with good torque increase under the curve, but backed it down as SBE and stock trans and we want it to live. Not a max efforts build. With our Stage I cam we have found that we are on the limits of the second generation Magnuson 2650R one piece / case blower. The original three piece blowers seem to do better. We have not yet tried a fully ported blower as the structural integrity of the blower is paramount in road race applications.

laynlo15 · 07-18-2023, 07:25 AM

Great numbers, another great build

ZL14ever · 07-18-2023, 09:28 AM

Hopefully Matt is doing another video highlighting the latest result

05-02-2023, 12:09 AM	#43
NicKey Drives: Nickey Super Camaro Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Loves Park, Illinois Posts: 1,679	We have a DSX 255 LPH aux pump on this car. With e80 the fuel pressure is just starting to drop, so we are at the limits of that pump. DSX offers an upgrade to a 320LPH pump for $50.00 extra. Last edited by NicKey; 05-02-2023 at 12:48 PM.

05-02-2023, 05:41 PM	#44
RobZL1 fo'shizZL1 Drives: 2017 ZL1 Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: ATL Posts: 1,380	Always amazing to see 4-digits with somewhat simple mods these days. Gotta love modern engines. 1000 is the new 800 (which was the new 600 not so long ago) With these big builds, what do you guys do for catch cans and/or breathers? I know in past videos you mentioned you like the Tracy Lewis design. I think those designs are likely the best out there for non-WOT operation. For WOT, particularly in boosted applications, I feel like that design has some potential for improvement in terms of evacuating rapidly building crankcase pressure. I think the MM design does it better in that regard. I think the Tracy Lewis design with a checked breather on the can, or adding an extra checked breather on a valve cover might be the way to go. I'm curious where you guys land on the topic. Around here, I know catch cans are almost as hot a topic as which oil to use, though, so I hope I don't derail the thread too much! __________________ 2017 ZL1 M6 Black \| Maggie 2650 // 103TB // Big Gulp // CSP LT's & Ultra Cats // JMS // Elite Ultra CC // BMR MM // BC Forged KL13 Past Rides- 2014 ZL1 M6 Red Hot \| Tons of mods 2004 CTS-V M6 Silver \| Many mods 1995 Corvette M6 Torch Red \| A few more mods 1992 Camaro M5 White \| A few mods

05-09-2023, 07:03 PM	#46
JSH Drives: '20 ZLE Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Mile High Posts: 3,815	My blower is all set up for port injection and I thought about doing it but I'm wondering who the best shop in the country is at doing PI? Can I run 104 or 108 octane with it? __________________ '20 ZL1LE A10. LME 390, E2650, FBO. 1116/967. 15" conversion/Weld/MT ET Street R 325/50R15. 100 octane: 1.35/9.25/151 at 3500 ft. (only one pass so far). 100% meth/100 octane: Alky Twin 10+10 MAF; No dyno or ET. Last edited by JSH; 05-12-2023 at 04:54 PM.

07-17-2023, 05:58 PM	#50
NicKey Drives: Nickey Super Camaro Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Loves Park, Illinois Posts: 1,679	Here is our most recent NicKey Performance ZL1 1LE Magnuson 2650 with Too High PSI port injection kit. Attached Images

07-18-2023, 07:25 AM	#53
laynlo15 Drives: 2022 Lt1 A10 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: clark, mo Posts: 8,873	Great numbers, another great build __________________ 2022 Lt1 6.2 A10, Maggie 2300, THPSI Port Inj/10 rib, Rotofab, E, Nickey, SCOL, Griptech, RC Bandits, Hoosiers/MT 9.80@142.96 1.44 60ft, 6.34@112 707/669 RWHP/TRQ. 16SS Maggie 2650 9.41@147 1.35 60ft, 5.99@119. 16 C7 A8 10.90@128 Bolt on stuff

07-17-2023, 05:56 PM	#49
NicKey Drives: Nickey Super Camaro Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Loves Park, Illinois Posts: 1,679	We are using the Tracy Lewis Catch Cans on street and drag applications along with the TL check valve, but are not using catch cans in road race applications. Please start another thread for more detailed discussions.

07-17-2023, 06:19 PM	#52
NicKey Drives: Nickey Super Camaro Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Loves Park, Illinois Posts: 1,679	Max boost was approx 15lbs. We did use some heads which flowed real well. We incorporated a smaller pulley and gained approx 1.5 lbs with good torque increase under the curve, but backed it down as SBE and stock trans and we want it to live. Not a max efforts build. With our Stage I cam we have found that we are on the limits of the second generation Magnuson 2650R one piece / case blower. The original three piece blowers seem to do better. We have not yet tried a fully ported blower as the structural integrity of the blower is paramount in road race applications.

07-18-2023, 09:28 AM	#54
ZL14ever Drives: 2018 Camaro ZL1 A10 Join Date: Feb 2022 Location: Dubai, UAE Posts: 68	Hopefully Matt is doing another video highlighting the latest result

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