03-05-2023, 01:54 PM | #43 | |
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Now whether that segment is worth pursuing is another question, GM thought it wasn't, so it stopped investing and the Challenger has moved from #3 to trading #1 and #2 places with the Mustang, while the Camaro is and will most likely remain the distant #3 now.
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03-05-2023, 01:58 PM | #44 |
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Say what you will about the styling, some like it, some not. I'd be embarrassed to admit that I bought such a high ticket item that I didn't like the looks of. Sorta like going to the bar, picking up the ugliest girl, marrying her, and then going to her friends and complaining about her looks!
I like the styling and especially like the fact that the G6 Camaro looks different than all of the others. Unlike the millions of cookie cutter SUV's that look like each other, the Camaro has it's own style. A style unlike all of the others. You don't see many on the roads, so like them or not, when you see a Camaro on the road they stand out. Want boring? Buy a mini van or SUV. |
03-05-2023, 02:02 PM | #45 | |
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Of course you'll also have to live with wooden brakes and steering that's 23 turns lock to lock (yes I'm exaggerating, but it will feel like it). But if you plan to enjoy operating it, not just staring at it, get a 6th Gen. GM just out did themselves in its engineering wise. Look back at a 1967 Camaro, particularly the back bumper. Notice something a bit odd? It's the back-up (reverse) lights. They are dangling off the bottom of the bumper, held in place by drilling a hole and bolting it. IOW- an add on! Somebody said, "hey, wait a minute, we gotta put some more lights in the back!". Now look at the '68 and those lights are nicely incorporated into the bumber body. My point is the very first 1st Gen. was a thrown together "parts bin" car that lucked out and the 6th Gen. is a "from the ground up" thought through design that exceeds the sum of its parts and gives us "poor guys" a chance to enjoy some very serious driving. BTW- that 1st Gen gonna cost you alot more $$. |
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03-05-2023, 02:04 PM | #46 |
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Those are nice pictures of your call. Great idea.
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03-05-2023, 02:17 PM | #47 |
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My first Camaro was a '78 Z28, what a piece of crap compared to this generation of Camaro's. When you buy a 60's or 70's muscle car unless it is a rest-o-mod it is all about nostalgia, not performance. Friend had a early 60's 'Vette that was a rest-o-mod, nice car, handled well, impressive. By the way the 10 spd auto is probably the best tranny I have ever had in a car, silky smooth and smart.
My RS is a V6 and as fast as those SS's in '69 and handles way better with all the tech goodies. I had a C7, the SS is every bit the car the 'Vette was, that's why I chose to go with one vs the C8. Not big on the C8 look, too many lines, prefer simpler lines, less rectangles. Except for the 90's always liked the Camaro styling. My brother had a '67 Mustang, cool at the time but a dog in handling and power wise compared to today's vehicles. Always preferred the Camaro look over the Mustang, still do. In the end though , your money, buy what you want.
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03-05-2023, 02:35 PM | #48 | |
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03-05-2023, 02:36 PM | #49 |
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Here is my thoughts on the subject. I personally like the design and look of all Camaro trims and front ends although the 19 SS a little less. The car puts a smile on face on the twisties and curves, in a straight line and that V8 sounds good. It is my forever car. The visibility is not bad for me and due to past professions I have driven a lot of vehicles to which I make my claims on and my now three year ownership of the car.
Someone in here mentioned something a long the lines of Costumers decide what is going to sell not anyone else and I believe this. GM chose not to have marketing for the Camaro and chose to focus on their pickup trucks and SUVs instead. I recently read on this site an article that GM is investing in the next Gen V8s for fullsize trucks and SUVs to help them remain competitive in the coming decades. Which to be fair Pickups are the big 3s bread and butter and those customers they don't want to lose out on. Things like the Subaru Crosstrek are another thing people like due to pricing and reliability. That is what people are going after. Ford is going to be getting a lot of sales with their Mustang from Dodge and Chevy after it remains the only one with a V8 remaining so I see that doing well too with them sucking up shares from the competitors. I didn't mention EVs cause I didn't want that to start another round of that talk so I left it out. |
03-05-2023, 02:59 PM | #50 |
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I love my ZLE and I love my Demon.
American Muscle. That is all.
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03-05-2023, 03:02 PM | #51 |
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styling was perfect for 3 years. clean, sharp, modern, like camaro's are supposed to be.
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03-05-2023, 03:51 PM | #53 |
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I know. Tesla outselling BMW and Mercedes is just a fluke.
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This pic was taken when I arrived at the park after roasting the Challenger.
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03-05-2023, 04:35 PM | #55 |
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I like the way the 17-18 1LE looks. Do I think it’s the best design in history, no, but it’s pleasant and the front end fits naturally with the rest of the car.
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03-05-2023, 04:56 PM | #56 |
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I do really like the light signature of the 19+. Looks angry AF at night and it’s unmistakably a Camaro SS.
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