[mike16ss]

Originally Posted by laborsmith

If still at 1100 after the last ordering cycle, it will evaporate as if it never existed.

Laborsmith

Well thats comforting... i had planned this all so it would be here as a grad present, august here we come.

Thanks for the info anyways.

Mike.

[WhyUMad1LE]

When are they going to offer the grille inserts and black tails?

[doc7000]

I am not shocked that much wasn't changed for 2017 considering that they have to do work for the 1LE (LT and SS versions) and ZL1 cars for 2017. Not to mention that at this point I wouldn't be shocked to see a Z/28 shown off in a few months.....

[ctrlz]

Originally Posted by mike16ss

So this means if my blue velvet order (still at 1100 last i heard) doesn't make it in as a 2016 i'm SOL?

When does this color become officially unavailable? It is still present on the "build your Camaro" web site put up by GM.

[Jeffro19]

Originally Posted by doc7000

I am not shocked that much wasn't changed for 2017 considering that they have to do work for the 1LE (LT and SS versions) and ZL1 cars for 2017. Not to mention that at this point I wouldn't be shocked to see a Z/28 shown off in a few months.....

Yeah doesn't suprise me not much has changed. Most of time the 2nd year of a new generation car will only have new paint choices and very small option changes.

[SpeedIsLife]

Pretty much par for the course with the Mustang and Challenger also. The Mustang picked up 3 new colors and modifications to their "black appearance package"..

I think the Challenger got some limited availability colors (GoMango, Plum Crazy Purple) and some other package modifications, but nothing dramatic.

2017 sounds like a snoozer MY except for the introduction of the ZL1 and 1LE, that's really the only highlight from the Big 3.

[AZCamaroFan]

Originally Posted by SpeedIsLife

2017 sounds like a snoozer MY except for the introduction of the ZL1 and 1LE, that's really the only highlight from the Big 3.

yeah that's quite a snooze

[SpeedIsLife]

Originally Posted by AZCamaroFan

yeah that's quite a snooze

Compared to 2015 (Gen 6 Mustang, refreshed Challenger, the Hellcats) Yes it is. Even compared to 2016 it's not as excitement building for the segment.

In a lot of ways this is how 2013 was..kind of in between big things.

[AZCamaroFan]

who cares about the challenger ? it's a dozen years old chassis- 2 ton- 2 door sedan. if two new performance Camaro's aren't enough in 1 year then you're looking for something to be unhappy about.

[SpeedIsLife]

Originally Posted by AZCamaroFan

who cares about the challenger ? it's a dozen years old chassis- 2 ton- 2 door sedan. if two new performance Camaro's aren't enough in 1 year then you're looking for something to be unhappy about.

Because I was considering the segment as a whole? I already cited the ZL1 and the 1LE as the big news for the 2017 model year. I wasn't diminishing it, in fact I specifically said OTHER than the ZL1 and 1LE ...2017 seems dull.

Consider the timeline..

2010-Camaro returns

2011-Mustang drivetrain overhaul (5.0, 3.7, transmissions, etc), 392 Challenger SRT8.

2012-Boss 302 and ZL1

2013-1LE and 5.8 GT500

2014-Camaro refresh and Z/28

2015-Challenger refresh, 6th Gen Mustang, Hellcats and Scat Packs.

2016-Gen 6 Camaro, GT350

2017-ZL1 and 1LE

So I misspoke...this is closer to 2014 than 2014. My point remains, however, that it looks like 2017 is a "deep breath" year before bigger changes come along.

[AZCamaroFan]

That's like saying Except for Maris and Mantle 1961 wasn't a great year for Home Runs.
mustang and challenger already have everything out there. what's ford going to do? add 15 hp to the GT?

[mike16ss]

Originally Posted by ctrlz

When does this color become officially unavailable? It is still present on the "build your Camaro" web site put up by GM.

I assume whenever they stop producing 2016 models, that color is not listed in the 2017 order guide.

[ctrlz]

Originally Posted by mike16ss

I assume whenever they stop producing 2016 models, that color is not listed in the 2017 order guide.

So is the product cycle pretty predictable for the Camaro? 2017 MY starts when? September/October?

[RenegadeXR]

Originally Posted by SpeedIsLife

2017 sounds like a snoozer MY except for the introduction of the ZL1 and 1LE, that's really the only highlight from the Big 3.

So long as people are snoozing instead of actively crying about QC every 5 seconds, I'd say the 2017 model year would be a resounding success...

Don't forget, the 2nd year is usually where they focus on fixing most production and component issues discovered during the 1st year of sales. Even though we have to wait for the 1LE and ZL1 toward the tail end of the upcoming model year, that alone is good news for customers.