[ZRacerLE]

Originally Posted by shaffe

That's true, maybe that had something to do with it being a FPC though and being different?



Good to know, maybe multiple people looking at it is why it got cracked faster



I don't think the the halo camaro will ever run with the current generation Corvette Z car, especially if they continue to share power trains. Previous generation corvettes had the advantage of weight, aerodynamics, etc and now the current Corvette has the advantage of the ME layout. Not saying the camaro wouldn't be close but still to many advantages to the Corvette if they continue to share powertrains

Was forgetting about the huge advantage of the new mid engine layout. Yeah, you're probably right then. A 700hp C8Z will probably not allow any front engine car get close in laptimes...

[shaffe]

Originally Posted by ZRacerLE

Was forgetting about the huge advantage of the new mid engine layout. Yeah, you're probably right then. A 700hp C8Z will probably not allow any front engine car get close in laptimes...

Yeah I have a feeling the C8 Z06 is going to be in another stratosphere of performance

[ZRacerLE]

Originally Posted by shaffe

Yeah I have a feeling the C8 Z06 is going to be in another stratosphere of performance

Probably looking at 720S numbers

[RobbyBeefcake87]

I thought TreedYou said the ZLE wouldn't keep up with the c8 z51 sarcastically lol

[RobbyBeefcake87]

Originally Posted by TheRealJA105

No,i have a problem with all people spewing useless wrong information on forums. If I had something personal against you why would i back you up when you are right????? Your run at the drag strip is my explanation and your lack of common sense to know that high hp + rwd + street tires = hard to get traction (see also inconsistent launches). There are plenty of ZL1 owners out there running 12s. The best I ever ran in my M6 Hellcat on those stupid PZeros was a 12 Flat, but if I would have bought some DRs i would have been a low 11 just from tires. These cars need traction. Meanwhile i was the dummy trying to make the Hellcat keep up with Camaros on road courses, hence my trade.


WRONG!


So first part, yes some of them need to get off their high horse. Maybe my 90% comment is high, but the MAJORITY of the advantage the SS1LE has is the wheels and tires! You are still convinced I'm a mustang guy, once again hahahahahahahahaha so oblivious.
Second part about price differences and whether the GT500 is worth $20+k more you are absolutely right on that no it's not. I've already said so many times a ZLE should still beat the CFTP on the track so spending way more money to lose definitely isn't worth it.


This!

A lot of it is the tires no doubt, 100% of the difference is certainly the wheels/tires, suspension components/tuning, and eLSD for sure though

[TheRealJA105]

Originally Posted by RobbyBeefcake87

A lot of it is the tires no doubt, 100% of the difference is certainly the wheels/tires, suspension components/tuning, and eLSD for sure though

I wish my car had the eLSD and Recaros, there I've admitted my jealousy

[TreedYou]

Originally Posted by RobbyBeefcake87

I thought TreedYou said the ZLE wouldn't keep up with the c8 z51 sarcastically lol

I should have added a smiley

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by Chadicus

Why wouldn't the ZLE keep up with the C8 Z51? I legit want to hear why you think that.

Because I said it would and some of these folks will disagree with me just to disagree with me. LOL!!

Originally Posted by newmoon

That's been my question are there any same track numbers for both the C8 Z51 and the ZLE? I would think that the ZLE would be faster.

I will admit that I initially got caught up in some statements that were made on here and by a lot of I know in the performance car world. So I really did think the C8 Z51 would beat cars like the C7 Z06, the ZL1, etc. But I have since calmed down. LOL! I do think that so far it has proven to be phenomenal. But I do not think it will beat these supercharged high HP cars. I do think the ZLE will beat the C8 Z51 and even match or beat the GT500 around a track.

Originally Posted by ZRacerLE

A ZLE will be significantly faster than a C8Z51 I predict. As it should. It's the same case for the GT500 CFTP. The halo camaro and halo mustang SHOULD be faster than the entry level Corvette. C8Z will be significantly faster than those two.

... and if you think about the camaro and mustang are the old generations compared to the C8. I'm hoping we're starting to see a new trend of the halo camaro and mustang running with the equivalent generation Z06. In this case it would be the C7 Z06. If I'm right, the next gen camaro (I believe it's coming) and mustang halos will run with the C8Z.

Nothing will ever run with a ZR1 except for the BRAND's halo car like the viper or ford gt. You won't see camaro or mustang lap with a ZR1 of equal generation... just my bench racing opinion, ha!

I agree!

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by TheRealJA105

No,i have a problem with all people spewing useless wrong information on forums. If I had something personal against you why would i back you up when you are right????? Your run at the drag strip is my explanation and your lack of common sense to know that high hp + rwd + street tires = hard to get traction (see also inconsistent launches). There are plenty of ZL1 owners out there running 12s. The best I ever ran in my M6 Hellcat on those stupid PZeros was a 12 Flat, but if I would have bought some DRs i would have been a low 11 just from tires. These cars need traction. Meanwhile i was the dummy trying to make the Hellcat keep up with Camaros on road courses, hence my trade.

You don't know anything about my run at the dragstrip except for what a certain troll has been falsely saying on here out of spite and a desire to tarnish my reputation. And it worked on you. Regardless of what you and anyone else thinks, it doesn't take a genius or someone who spends all day at a track to know how this stuff. There is a such thing as research. And say what you will about "bench racers" or "magazine racers", but there is a wealth of information to be had from reading and learning about all these cars. Which might explain why you're soo off in your thinking or why you still can't grasp what I was trying to say to you even after 3 others completely agreed with me.

Originally Posted by RobbyBeefcake87

A lot of it is the tires no doubt, 100% of the difference is certainly the wheels/tires, suspension components/tuning, and eLSD for sure though

And there you have it. Thank you for explaining it in simple terms. Maybe now he'll stop debating it just to disagree with me.

Originally Posted by TreedYou

I should have added a smiley

I'll take your word for it and give you the benefit of the doubt that you were being sarcastic...

[shaffe]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

Because I said it would and some of these folks will disagree with me just to disagree with me. LOL!!

I will admit that I initially got caught up in some statements that were made on here and by a lot of I know in the performance car world. So I really did think the C8 Z51 would beat cars like the C7 Z06, the ZL1, etc. But I have since calmed down. LOL! I do think that so far it has proven to be phenomenal. But I do not think it will beat these supercharged high HP cars. I do think the ZLE will beat the C8 Z51 and even match or beat the GT500 around a track.

I agree!

Noooooooooo we would never disagree with you just to disagree hahahahaha.

I think one thing we can all agree on though, is with the strong showing by the C8 Z51 - that the C8 high performance variants will be game changers

[ZRacerLE]

Speaking of the C8. It's the first time I've ever liked the look of a convertible with the top up. That hard top looks great when it's up.

[ST1LE]

Originally Posted by ZRacerLE

Speaking of the C8. It's the first time I've ever liked the look of a convertible with the top up. That hard top looks great when it's up.

I love everything about the convertible. I agree with you, it's also the first one I have liked.

[GossipSquirrelJelena]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

You don't know anything about my run at the dragstrip except for what a certain troll has been falsely saying on here out of spite and a desire to tarnish my reputation. And it worked on you.

If you're refering to me. Nothing I said was false. I said the run was a sh!tty example of what an automatic modded ZL1 should do. That's undeniable. If the stock ZL1 is an 11.2 car like stated. A half second slower is terrible! And if we're going by the 10.9 glory pass.

[newmoon]

Originally Posted by Chadicus

Why wouldn't the ZLE keep up with the C8 Z51? I legit want to hear why you think that.

I think that the ZLE will be faster than the C8 Z51 the same way it beat the mid-engine Lotus in the review below, now granted the C8 is more powerful and the win would be by a smaller time, but you do get the idea.

The problem once again outlined in this review is what sacrifices are you willing to pay for the ZLE track performance, the reviewers once again get into how harsh the ride and manners are on the street, almost stating it really is too much.

https://www.motortrendondemand.com/s...head/42026352/