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Old 05-13-2016, 10:22 AM   #477
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Twin turbos don't fit in the Corvette, so that's out the window. It's the LT4. It has to be the LT4 because that's the only engine GM has to use.
Here are a few links I found in a very quick search. This mid-engine vette is being worked on right now. GM has been leaking bits of information on it for a long time. There will be plenty of room for turbos on this mid-engine car. I'm fairly certain that this Zora and this new Z/28 will share an engine that GM has not yet revealed the details about. Don't know which release will come out first but I have been saying for a long time... the new Z/28 will have turbos..... and it will crush everything in its class that has been built to date.....everything.

http://www.caranddriver.com/features...ng-for-feature

http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars...tte-test-mule/

http://carsintrend.com/2017-chevrole...-release-date/
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Old 05-13-2016, 10:24 AM   #478
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Here are a few links I found in a very quick search. This mid-engine vette is being worked on right now. GM has been leaking bits of information on it for a long time. There will be plenty of room for turbos on this mid-engine car. I'm fairly certain that this Zora and this new Z/28 will share an engine that GM has not yet revealed the details about. Don't know which release will come out first but I have been saying for a long time... the new Z/28 will have turbos..... and it will crush everything in its class that has been built to date.....everything.

http://www.caranddriver.com/features...ng-for-feature

http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars...tte-test-mule/

http://carsintrend.com/2017-chevrole...-release-date/
Man, I hope you are right. TT's on the car would be killer indeed.
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Old 05-13-2016, 10:37 AM   #479
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Here are a few links I found in a very quick search. This mid-engine vette is being worked on right now. GM has been leaking bits of information on it for a long time. There will be plenty of room for turbos on this mid-engine car. I'm fairly certain that this Zora and this new Z/28 will share an engine that GM has not yet revealed the details about. Don't know which release will come out first but I have been saying for a long time... the new Z/28 will have turbos..... and it will crush everything in its class that has been built to date.....everything.

http://www.caranddriver.com/features...ng-for-feature

http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars...tte-test-mule/

http://carsintrend.com/2017-chevrole...-release-date/
I've seen those all before and I won't believe them until I see a mid engine Corvette.

Do you honestly expect GM to put the engine for its halo car in a Camaro costing 1/4 the price? They didn't put the LS7 in the Camaro until after the Corvette using it went out of production.
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Old 05-13-2016, 10:42 AM   #480
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I've seen those all before and I won't believe them until I see a mid engine Corvette.

Do you honestly expect GM to put the engine for its halo car in a Camaro costing 1/4 the price? They didn't put the LS7 in the Camaro until after the Corvette using it went out of production.
Exactly. There are 2 possible Camaro engines and we already know what they are.
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Old 05-13-2016, 10:55 AM   #481
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It was said around the release of the 6th Gen Camaro that the M7 transmission didn't and that's why they went with the M6. So it doesn't make sense that the A10 fits the Camaro and not the C7. I'm sure it will happen. In due time. The fact that they did not incorporate it yet gives credibility to the argument that the Corvette team is busy with something big.
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Old 05-13-2016, 11:06 AM   #482
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I've seen those all before and I won't believe them until I see a mid engine Corvette.

Do you honestly expect GM to put the engine for its halo car in a Camaro costing 1/4 the price? They didn't put the LS7 in the Camaro until after the Corvette using it went out of production.

This ^

regardless of what any one wants to think, the Corvette still sits atop the mountain at GM
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it has more power...its available power is like a set kof double Ds (no matter where your face is... theyre everywhere) it has the suspension to mame it matter...(
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Old 05-13-2016, 11:06 AM   #483
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If this is truly to be an intended track car, I cannot see them putting the LT4 in the Z/28 due to heat soak and weight. I can see why they did it for the ZL1 it has all of the bells and whistles whereas the "luxury" items will be an option. I could be wrong
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Old 05-13-2016, 11:35 AM   #484
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For the last time people!!! The camaro will not have cooling issues even with an LT4 the corvettes issues were due to lack of air flow. Looking at this image you can see the difference in grill openings!



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Old 05-13-2016, 11:40 AM   #485
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This ^

regardless of what any one wants to think, the Corvette still sits atop the mountain at GM
^^^THIS^^^

Especially against the Camaro. We Camaro fans may want it to be otherwise but there is still a super powerful Corvette lobby within GM that pulls a LOT of strings when it comes to any other GM model.

Should not be the case but it definitely is.
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^^^THIS^^^

Especially against the Camaro. We Camaro fans may want it to be otherwise but there is still a super powerful Corvette lobby within GM that pulls a LOT of strings when it comes to any other GM model.

Should not be the case but it definitely is.
And its not a bad thing, I don't get why some people think it is. If you have to get trickle down tech or share stuff with another car, the Corvette is a damn good place to start lol
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And its not a bad thing, I don't get why some people think it is. If you have to get trickle down tech or share stuff with another car, the Corvette is a damn good place to start lol
It's only a bad thing when the Corvette goes in a direction that doesn't allow you to effectively compete in areas your segment.

Yes, the V6 and SS outperform the Mustang but an LT4 Z/28 leaves the GT350 unchallenged. Plus, Ford being Ford, the GT500 is likely to make more power than the Hellcat. So, now there is a situation where two nearly identical Camaro hi po version likely won't counter the Mustang variants.
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I've seen those all before and I won't believe them until I see a mid engine Corvette.

Do you honestly expect GM to put the engine for its halo car in a Camaro costing 1/4 the price? They didn't put the LS7 in the Camaro until after the Corvette using it went out of production.
Well to be fair, they stuck the LS9-derived LSA in plenty of less expensive products. I know it's not the same thing, but in today's climate very few engines are exclusive to one product. Cadillac's LGW is the only one that comes to mind, maybe LF4 but even that's LF3-derived.
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It may not be the most important factor, but the Z/28 would benefit from the LT4 to keep costs down...

The crying was over the 5thGen Z/28 price with a last-gasp use of the LS7 was bad enough. Imagine what it would be like with added cost and price of a Z/28 with a new, unique engine...
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Yes, the V6 and SS outperform the Mustang but an LT4 Z/28 leaves the GT350 unchallenged. Plus, Ford being Ford, the GT500 is likely to make more power than the Hellcat. So, now there is a situation where two nearly identical Camaro hi po version likely won't counter the Mustang variants.
Not sure I am following your thinking.
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