Will there be a GT350 answer at launch? - Page 31

NASTY99Z28 · 08-05-2015, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by GretchenGotGrowl

I agree, but I don't think Ford was thinking buyers would spend much time at the drag strip.

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Originally Posted by hotlapZL1

Did you see the Z/28 1/4 mile fastest list? Its empty because that is not what the car is designed for.

Is this not a track car with an engine that doesn't wake up until 4000 rpm with a practical red line of 6250 rpm? After that the drive begins saying one, one thousand, two, one thousand, three, one thousand...

Mustang guys and camaro guys are a different breed. Those guys love to drag race anything and it shows by how many drag raced the boss,cobra,gt500's and next will be the gt350. You won't see as many simply because of volume of cars made. But don't think they won't take them to the strip.

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Originally Posted by ChefBorOzzy

I'm not sure why people put so much emphasis on which car is better by looking at modified cars.

Oh boy the pill lives his life based on that.

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Originally Posted by khell86

From what i've seen in the POV grattan video from Winding Road, this car has long gears. It's shifts seem to drop it to right around 6K RPM. Wont know for sure though until someone actually finds the gear ratios, but Ford did say that the transmission was modified extensively and specifically to accommodate the Voodoo engine.

Yep and dropping to 6k isn't enough to buy you more time. I wonder if the car goes into safety mode to many times if it will affect any warranty problems? The bean counters doing what they do best.

SuperSound · 08-05-2015, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by khell86

From what i've seen in the POV grattan video from Winding Road, this car has long gears. It's shifts seem to drop it to right around 6K RPM. Wont know for sure though until someone actually finds the gear ratios, but Ford did say that the transmission was modified extensively and specifically to accommodate the Voodoo engine.

Which will be especially bad if this 8 sec limit is true and doesn't reset on each shift. Just doesn't make sense.

khell86 · 08-05-2015, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperSound

Which will be especially bad if this 8 sec limit is true and doesn't reset on each shift. Just doesn't make sense.

It would have to reset if it goes below the 6250 threshold or yeah this would be a little iffy lol.

Ford just needs to explain it a little better. Then again this is also coming from a secret source from a guy who said he received a 30 page book, but wont share it with anyone.

hotlap · 08-05-2015, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by khell86

It would have to reset if it goes below the 6250 threshold or yeah this would be a little iffy lol.

Ford just needs to explain it a little better. Then again this is also coming from a secret source from a guy who said he received a 30 page book, but wont share it with anyone.

This whole thing sounds hard to believe. Let us know if proof surfaces

Bhobbs · 08-05-2015, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by khell86

It would have to reset if it goes below the 6250 threshold or yeah this would be a little iffy lol.

Ford just needs to explain it a little better. Then again this is also coming from a secret source from a guy who said he received a 30 page book, but wont share it with anyone.

It's not the first time Ford has done something like this. Some of their turbo engines have a short overboost function.

fradaj · 08-05-2015, 04:02 PM

The ability to over rev is so when you grab another gear you stay at maximum power after the shift. The 8250 redline must be very close to the limit for the engine. In theory you should be able to over rev the engine thru every gear as you accelerate. Only time will tell if there will be any durability issues. The 8 sec limit could be a disadvantage at the end of the 1/4 mile maybe.

rayhawk · 08-05-2015, 04:15 PM

I'm curious what the SAE J1349 spec for engine rating says. I'm assuming it has some requirements about how long peak output needs to be sustained to claim a certain rating. Not that Ford is claiming the SAE rating, but it would be a good reference point.

Bhobbs · 08-05-2015, 04:24 PM

hotlap · 08-05-2015, 04:29 PM

OMG^^^

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Originally Posted by KMPrenger

So if this whole only 8 seconds over 6,250 rpm thing is true, then I would go as far as to call the LS7 the superior engine based on that power chart. The whole advantage of Voodoo is that it can rev farther, longer. Not cool if you can't actually stay in that rpm range for long.

OK...so the argument might be well, can't imagine you'd be above 6,250 rpm for long anyways. Sure...might be true, but then in the rpm ranges you are running in "mostly" the LS7 is pulling harder.

Agree

Bhobbs · 08-05-2015, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by hotlapZL1

OMG^^^

Agree

So, basically, the 5.2 Voodoo is a 475 hp engine with emergency power up to 526.

hotlap · 08-05-2015, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bhobbs

So, basically, the 5.2 Voodoo is a 475 hp engine with emergency power up to 526.

with the implication that the engine is unstable above 6250 rpm (over rev). It would be interesting to see how the warranty is worded

IOMike · 08-05-2015, 06:07 PM

But Ford said it was more faster.

Bhobbs · 08-05-2015, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by hotlapZL1

with the implication that the engine is unstable above 6250 rpm (over rev). It would be interesting to see how the warranty is worded

I hope this is not true. It would be pretty disappointing. Depending on how GM handles the 6th gen Camaro, I was keeping the GT350 in consideration for my next car but I don't think I will now.

90503 · 08-05-2015, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Bhobbs

It will be interesting to see how this rpm business works (or doesn't work) at the track....I think a full 8 seconds above 6250 is possible...The bummer would be having to wait 15 seconds to go over 6250 again....

...Hopefully this is way overkill for the guy on the street, and can be undone or by-passed for the track...

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fradaj Drives: RS Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Florida Posts: 1,037	The ability to over rev is so when you grab another gear you stay at maximum power after the shift. The 8250 redline must be very close to the limit for the engine. In theory you should be able to over rev the engine thru every gear as you accelerate. Only time will tell if there will be any durability issues. The 8 sec limit could be a disadvantage at the end of the 1/4 mile maybe. Last edited by fradaj; 08-06-2015 at 12:24 AM.

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