[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by Cam 6

I'm guessing that list will add close to $5K. No expert at all on performance part costs, but that looks like a rich list.

The only real difference between my list and the 5th gen is the upgraded brakes. The 5th gen 1LE got the MM6 TR6060 as part of the upgrade but the 6th gen SS already has the MM6.

I figure replacing the trans with the brakes should keep the price about the same.

[Cam 6]

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

The only real difference between my list and the 5th gen is the upgraded brakes. The 5th gen 1LE got the MM6 TR6060 as part of the upgrade but the 6th gen SS already has the MM6.

I figure replacing the trans with the brakes should keep the price about the same.

I was considering the PDR as well. The Navi/PDR option is $1795.00 on the Vette. Probably a couple hundred less on the Gen 6.

Either way, I'm sure the 1LE will be a good value package.

[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by Cam 6

I was considering the PDR as well. The Navi/PDR option is $1795.00 on the Vette. Probably a couple hundred less on the Gen 6.

Either way, I'm sure the 1LE will be a good value package.

True.

I'm not sure if the PDR will be included or not.

[Memphis43]

Originally Posted by SUMMIT WHITE SS

Maybe the 285/305 setup we have seen a few times, and I too HOPE it's these wheels (pic attached). As I like them enough that I wouldn't even swap them out for aftermarket ones.


I think those brakes may bump the price up too high? I was thinking maybe larger rotors, same calipers...but the tranny won't need to be different like last gen. So that saves money.


Different spoiler and splitter. Don't see any bodywork changes besides that on the 1LE, I will save that for the next Zxx.


Agree.


Agree, thinking 3:91.


Agree.

Similar thoughts as mine, but a few differences. I would also think some type of 1LE badging this time around. I would love to see some sort of suede seat insert option on the cloth seats too...

Those wheels look so good


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[crankaholic]

Just watched Jay Leno's video about his GT350R... and the chief engineer at Ford thinks MRC has significant benefits on the track, so does Ferrari and Porsche apparently. I still haven't heard a reasonable explanation of why a lot of you seem to think it doesn't. The only reason not to opt for it is custom tuning or a dedicated (as in no street use at all) track car where rules don't allow MRC.

Also, does anyone know if 1LE parts will be sold separately (or as a package) by GM performance? The gen5 1LE added a lot of cool upgrades; going as far as transmission and ZL1 suspension components...

[Jeffro19]

I can't wait till they release the details on the 1LE. I'm thinking recaros will be part of the package for sure and a square tire setup and a 3.91 rear end. They will Probably bring back the black hood as well. I'm not ruling out MRC either. My guess will be around $4500 for the package.

[63falcondude]

Originally Posted by Jeffro19

I can't wait till they release the details on the 1LE. I'm thinking recaros will be part of the package for sure and a square tire setup and a 3.91 rear end. They will Probably bring back the black hood as well. I'm not ruling out MRC either. My guess will be around $4500 for the package.

Square tires wouldn't work.

[SS 1LE]

Originally Posted by crankaholic

Just watched Jay Leno's video about his GT350R... and the chief engineer at Ford thinks MRC has significant benefits on the track, so does Ferrari and Porsche apparently.

Of course the Ford engineer will say what their car has is good, it's marketing and it sells cars. And it does have benefits if the track is bumpy, or for someone not as skilled with driving.

As for Ferrari, they added MRC to satisfy the people who wanted a better ride, but not alienate those who want a good track set up. Ferraris track based cars do not have MRC.

GMC added MRC to their full size trucks as an option too...you think that's for track based handling? It's for the ride improvement.

I'm not knocking MRC, but so many don't understand it fully. As far and it's features and benefits...for a daily driver it's fantastic, for a track day car there can be better choices.

Originally Posted by crankaholic

I still haven't heard a reasonable explanation of why a lot of you seem to think it doesn't. The only reason not to opt for it is custom tuning or a dedicated (as in no street use at all) track car where rules don't allow MRC.

Guess you missed the posts? There was a few of them...and most who buy and track a 1LE would want what works the best no? Otherwise, don't check the box. Has nothing to do with it only being a dedicated track car really as coilovers and such are adjustable is 10-15 minutes.

Originally Posted by crankaholic

Also, does anyone know if 1LE parts will be sold separately (or as a package) by GM performance? The gen5 1LE added a lot of cool upgrades; going as far as transmission and ZL1 suspension components...

They have in the past, so I could see it happening, but not for at least a year or so after release. It took a few years with the 5th gen before the parts were sold as a package if I recall. Some stuff is only available if you buy the car though...

[shaffe]

Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't almost all of the reviews praise the MRC for allowing the ZL1 to handle so well??? Or were they just praising it bc it was so much better than the GT500 set up lol

EDIT: NVM just pulled up the article all the suspension praise was on the street with the MRC, track stuff was mostly chassis

[Bazooka]

Originally Posted by 63falcondude

Square tires wouldn't work.

would be a very bumpy ride

[SpeedIsLife]

Originally Posted by shaffe

Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't almost all of the reviews praise the MRC for allowing the ZL1 to handle so well??? Or were they just praising it bc it was so much better than the GT500 set up lol

Both.

The ZL1/GT500 review debacle has kind of faded from the Camaro collective memory, it seems.

http://www.motortrend.com/news/2012-...-shelby-gt500/

Here MT praises the MRC for it's comfort and performance prowess..

Be it a back road or the daily commute, the Camaro ZL1 is the better street car. Its magnetorheological shock absorbers offer an impressive performance range, smoothing the impacts of rough pavement in Tour mode and keeping the heavy chassis under control in Sport mode. Senior features editor Jonny Lieberman described it to me as “basically a sportier CTS-V,” balancing ride and handling beautifully. The GT500, by contrast, suffers from a stiffer ride and too much vertical motion. Every bump gets your head bobbing up and down as the big Shelby bucks like an unbroken colt. Its two-mode Bilstein shocks are simply too stiff for everyday driving, even in Normal mode.

....

The Shelby constantly was chirping and spinning the tires and sliding the back end around, even with stability and traction control on. The ZL1 did nothing of the sort. With both cars making far more than enough torque to obliterate the rear tires at 1500 RPM, credit goes to the Camaro’s suspension for keeping the power on the ground, in spite of the tires.

[SS 1LE]

Originally Posted by shaffe

Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't almost all of the reviews praise the MRC for allowing the ZL1 to handle so well??? Or were they just praising it bc it was so much better than the GT500 set up lol

EDIT: NVM just pulled up the article all the suspension praise was on the street with the MRC, track stuff was mostly chassis

MRC was added to the ZL1 also to help cope with the weight gain...remember, the more track focused (and lighter) Z28 did not have MRC.

[crankaholic]

Originally Posted by SUMMIT WHITE SS

Of course the Ford engineer will say what their car has is good, it's marketing and it sells cars. And it does have benefits if the track is bumpy, or for someone not as skilled with driving.

As for Ferrari, they added MRC to satisfy the people who wanted a better ride, but not alienate those who want a good track set up. Ferraris track based cars do not have MRC.


Guess you missed the posts? There was a few of them...and most who buy and track a 1LE would want what works the best no? Otherwise, don't check the box. Has nothing to do with it only being a dedicated track car really as coilovers and such are adjustable is 10-15 minutes.


They have in the past, so I could see it happening, but not for at least a year or so after release. It took a few years with the 5th gen before the parts were sold as a package if I recall. Some stuff is only available if you buy the car though...

They didn't have to put MRC on the R if it didn't add to track performance, especially since it's such a track oriented car (even has no rear seats). Same with other manufacturers.

I read... but all those points come down to tuning. If MRC actually responds to adjustments 1000 time per second, it's all down to software tuning... there's no reason it can't replicate how a conventional shock works. Imagine being able to adjust the shocks just by clicking around on the screen vs having to jack up the car or going under the hood/trunk.

I hope they do. Also, any chance of a hi-per strut setup on the 1LE..? That would be amazing.

[6spdhyperblue]

i guess you weren't on here yesterday, heres the cliff notes.

the opinion of the few here believe if you want MRC then you dont need more agressive aero, wheels/tires, alignment, sways, possible PDR, possible eLSD, possible 3.90s
if you have a problem with that, buy an SS with MRC and source all the parts, and install them.


the 911 GT3 RS has mag ride, but hey what does porsche know.

if you're not modding, MRC is better than regular shocks.
DSSV is better for the track than MRC.

again, MRC doesn't belong on a 1LE even as an option, according to some here