[olrocker]

Originally Posted by ember1205

The longer you've been driving a manual, the less likely you are to have to adapt anything. Those that are used to far fewer gears and much weaker engines are already used to giving the car a good "kick" off the line which will completely defeat the skip-shift system. And once you have created the habit of a less-than-light-footed departure from the line, it crosses over cleanly to all of the other manual cars as well.

For reference, the same transmission is used on the ZL1 and it DOES have a gas guzzler tax.

This is not really accurate. Unless I was playing I never “goosed” it off the line in any car I’ve ever driven, all of which had no more than half the horsepower of a regular SS. You can accelerate smoothly without giving any manual extra gas.

I’ve driven enough Tremec-equipped cars to know the skip shift engages a lot more than I’d like in regular, traffic-filled, daily driving.

Yes the ZL1 gets the GGT but that’s due to the extra 200 hp. Just like the 4th Gen SS 350 got GGT but the base Z28 350 did not.

[Number 3]

Been awhile since I drove a manual with skip shift but rarely got “gated” by simply doing the following. When pulling down from first casually flip the shift across the neutral to the right then back left and down to second. As mentioned you can rev to 3,000 RPM but if are just driving casually you can use my technique to rarely get forced to 4th

[olrocker]

Originally Posted by Number 3

Been awhile since I drove a manual with skip shift but rarely got “gated” by simply doing the following. When pulling down from first casually flip the shift across the neutral to the right then back left and down to second. As mentioned you can rev to 3,000 RPM but if are just driving casually you can use my technique to rarely get forced to 4th

Too much to think about

[Number 3]

Originally Posted by olrocker

Too much to think about

Surprisingly it came naturally. Never real thought about it just pull down a flip right then pull over and down to second. If you are driving “casually” it works.

Of course if you can program it out, no big deal other than warranty.

[Edward Paul]

I usually drive to where it doesn't come on but once in a while it gets me. I just go to 3rd with no problem.

[ember1205]

Originally Posted by 50MileSmile

But if you change your shifting style for a brief pause between first and second and touch neutral to beat the CAGS, you won’t be as fast through the gears as you and me. I installed a skip-shift on my C6, but not on my 1LE because I drove the car for performance as you said. For whomever mentioned it, you can still be gentle on the warmup and not hit the CAGS.

Again, not following this... If speed through the gears "matters", you're pushing the car hard enough that CAGS will not engage. No pause required.

[50MileSmile]

Originally Posted by ember1205

Again, not following this... If speed through the gears "matters", you're pushing the car hard enough that CAGS will not engage. No pause required.

Exactly what I said … I thought. You and I understand how it works; my point was someone pausing between the gears in neutral to “fool” the CAGS isn’t extracting the most fun or maximum performance from the car. That’s all. Why own a car like this if you’re going to granny shift it, instead of pushing hard enough so the CAGS will not engage?

[Keko]

Originally Posted by 50MileSmile

Exactly what I said … I thought. You and I understand how it works; my point was someone pausing between the gears in neutral to “fool” the CAGS isn’t extracting the most fun or maximum performance from the car. That’s all. Why own a car like this if you’re going to granny shift it, instead of pushing hard enough so the CAGS will not engage?

+1

[olrocker]

Originally Posted by 50MileSmile

Exactly what I said … I thought. You and I understand how it works; my point was someone pausing between the gears in neutral to “fool” the CAGS isn’t extracting the most fun or maximum performance from the car. That’s all. Why own a car like this if you’re going to granny shift it, instead of pushing hard enough so the CAGS will not engage?

Because 99% of your driving is not done at Talledaga Motor Speedway. It's in your city on the way to and from work, to the grocery store, to your parents house. Where You encounter traffic and speed limits. Heck it's be great to wind it out through every gear up to redline all the time, but unless you want to eat the backside of the car in front of you, you're gonna have to granny shift especially 1st to 2nd.

So, because in that scenario the CAGS will engage pretty much all the time, simply get the bypass harness.

[Keko]

Originally Posted by olrocker

Because 99% of your driving is not done at Talledaga Motor Speedway. It's in your city on the way to and from work, to the grocery store, to your parents house. Where You encounter traffic and speed limits. Heck it's be great to wind it out through every gear up to redline all the time, but unless you want to eat the backside of the car in front of you, you're gonna have to granny shift especially 1st to 2nd.

So, because in that scenario the CAGS will engage pretty much all the time, simply get the bypass harness.

You don't have to be ripping it to skip CAGS. Just take 1st gear to 20mph. It only activates up until 19mph and when throttle is less than 33%. And if you are granny shifting so hard that you DO get CAGS, why not just go to 3rd or 4th? You are admittedly already driving slow.

[Nothing like an SS]

Hitting 20 mph to avoid CAGS = Talladega? Seriously?
20 mph does not even exceed school zone speed limits!

Even in very heavy traffic, I NEVER even see the warning let alone get locked out. Sorry, if 20 mph in 1st is a hardship, perhaps it's the wrong car for you.

This topic (for the hundredth time) never ceases to make me laugh......

[50MileSmile]

So what’s our next controversial topic?

[NjaTrtl]

The CAGS can definitely be a PITA. Mostly when making left hand turns behind slow moving drivers. I eventually did install the skip shift eliminator in my '00 Z28 and it was nice to not have to deal with the annoyance. I'll probably do it with this one as well at some point as well.

[Nothing like an SS]

Originally Posted by 50MileSmile

So what’s our next controversial topic?

Catch cans!!!!