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Old 08-31-2022, 09:43 AM   #29
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Some spray detailer and removal of the HPE badge would really dial it in!!
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Old 08-31-2022, 09:54 AM   #30
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Some spray detailer and removal of the HPE badge would really dial it in!!
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Old 08-31-2022, 09:55 AM   #31
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Sweet...glad it's holding up!

But just to clarify...The kong Maggie or Eddie likely is not ported to the degree of a X port stock blower. Some have reported race ported stock blowers flexing. Hence why I said a mild port and clean up on these larger blowers likely is not an issue. I was only speculating why the Manufacturer doesn't clean up the casting flash and what not. Perhaps they don't feel the potential gains are worth the extra time and effort before packaging them up...dunno.
I agree edelbrock was more satisfied with a reliable blower that made okay power at 1st then Nick Purciello who was at edelbrock now at whipple brought some exciting things such as the port injection and was working on some other things i had talked to him about offering a ported option but hes gone and now you got this old timer w cheese(a boring chili's hamburger) I like to add that when talking about old people lmao named David Page who's into old crap nothing modern and even though he's over the supercharger division (took nicks place) he hasn't posted 1 damn thing about a blower, blower performance, blower car time slips, nada zilch. Doesn't someone monitor him?

Edelbrock has cnc machines and there big enough to do the research with flow meter benches makes no sense why they don't capitalize on porting or clean them up to a degree.
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Old 08-31-2022, 10:01 AM   #32
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I agree edelbrock was more satisfied with a reliable blower that made okay power at 1st then Nick Purciello who was at edelbrock now at whipple brought some exciting things such as the port injection and was working on some other things i had talked to him about offering a ported option but hes gone and now you got this old timer w cheese(a boring chili's hamburger) I like to add that when talking about old people lmao named David Page who's into old crap nothing modern and even though he's over the supercharger division (took nicks place) he hasn't posted 1 damn thing about a blower, blower performance, blower car time slips, nada zilch. Doesn't someone monitor him?

Edelbrock has cnc machines and there big enough to do the research with flow meter benches makes no sense why they don't capitalize on porting or clean them up to a degree.
I feel like they were so early to releasing their 2650 it was well before porting and optimizing (or maybe how to port and optimize, specifically) was as real a thing as it is now. I find it hard to believe this is a possibility, but that's easy for me to say, some 6-years later. I wonder if they simply didn't really realize the potential of these rotors, hence, almost, setting low arbitrary limits through smaller snout sizing, for example

The bottom line is, though, that it isn't uncommon, when the engine is built properly, to get 4-digits to the tires. That's pretty cool, and I bet we're going to see some numbers, at least, close to that with this build. You're going to be needing a short block soon, lol. Make sure you get some videos for us!!!
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Old 08-31-2022, 10:08 AM   #33
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Sweet...glad it's holding up!

But just to clarify...The kong Maggie or Eddie likely is not ported to the degree of a X port stock blower. Some have reported race ported stock blowers flexing. Hence why I said a mild port and clean up on these larger blowers likely is not an issue. I was only speculating why the Manufacturer doesn't clean up the casting flash and what not. Perhaps they don't feel the potential gains are worth the extra time and effort before packaging them up...dunno.
Is it the case or the rotors from over-spinning? If I recall, the OEM speed was dang close to the Eaton-rated limits, and Kong recommends spinning them faster for more flow and optimization of the porting. What have you heard is flexing, out of my own curiosity? I've just seen general statements regarding this, with pretty much zero detail.

Coming from someone with no education to support any of my statements, I have to wonder if the OEM blower is more stable that most of these aftermarket ones.

I noticed that my 1740 seemed to be case from a different aluminum than my Maggie. Maybe that's wrong, but the feel and look suggest this to me. I feel like for being a lot bigger, it's not a lot heavier than the 1740. Assuming that has any truth, I might put more faith in a race port 1740 the most a race port Maggie (since that's the only blower I've handled).
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Old 08-31-2022, 10:18 AM   #34
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Then there's Justin Lamb's Stanfield/Maggie engine
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Old 08-31-2022, 10:26 AM   #35
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Some spray detailer and removal of the HPE badge would really dial it in!!
Will detail after dyno, lol. It's a HPE long block so they deserve at least a badge.
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Old 08-31-2022, 10:53 AM   #36
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Is it the case or the rotors from over-spinning? If I recall, the OEM speed was dang close to the Eaton-rated limits, and Kong recommends spinning them faster for more flow and optimization of the porting. What have you heard is flexing, out of my own curiosity? I've just seen general statements regarding this, with pretty much zero detail.

Coming from someone with no education to support any of my statements, I have to wonder if the OEM blower is more stable that most of these aftermarket ones.

I noticed that my 1740 seemed to be case from a different aluminum than my Maggie. Maybe that's wrong, but the feel and look suggest this to me. I feel like for being a lot bigger, it's not a lot heavier than the 1740. Assuming that has any truth, I might put more faith in a race port 1740 the most a race port Maggie (since that's the only blower I've handled).
I don't have a lot of info about it unfortunately. I believe it was mentioned on a LT4 FB page. The part that is unclear to me is the issue due to excessive porting causing parts to flex when driven hard or from not changing the bearings?

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Is it the case or the rotors from over-spinning?
Mine will spin at 20,800 with engine rpm at 6800. Greg says this is conservative. I think some 10-rib builds are doing 25k. KaTech spins theirs in the 18k range.
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Mine will spin at 20,800 with engine rpm at 6800. Greg says this is conservative. I think some 10-rib builds are doing 25k. KaTech spins theirs in the 18k range.
Do you know that pulley combo?
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Do you know that pulley combo?
3/9.18 Griptecs
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I don't have a lot of info about it unfortunately. I believe it was mentioned on a LT4 FB page. The part that is unclear to me is the issue due to excessive porting causing parts to flex when driven hard or from not changing the bearings?

https://synergymotorsports.com/blogs...veryone-misses
He says overall he probably takes more out of the Edelbrock casting than the 1.7.
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3/9.18 Griptecs
Interested to see the difference if I'm at 3.0 and 8.3 I'm barely turning it.
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Interested to see the difference if I'm at 3.0 and 8.3 I'm barely turning it.
Yes, 18813 blower / 6800 engine.

I'm going to order a 2.75 because I want to try 22,700
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