[Future1LEa10]

Originally Posted by Juniorss

That actually isn’t untrue, and between me and my dad, we have had 5 Mopars recently (Hellcat Challenger, Charger SRT 392, Charger Scat Pack and 2 Rams). The 6.4’s eating cams/lifters is well documented and it’s also common in the Rams as well. Almost all of the Mopars we had/have are low mileage (under 15k), so we haven’t had the issue.

Funny story I too have owned a few of these cars. 2 2017 392 SCAT challengers and a 2017 Charger Daytona 392, none of which ate anything in their engines. All three had very rough lives in my hands. I dont baby my cars and none of them drank a drop of oil nor did they have any mechanical failures of any kind. During that period of time I was also an active member of a few Challenger/Charger forums. This wasnt "well documented" on any of them. Still isnt.

Now if you want to talk about whining rear end gears and Dodge's inability to correct them, then we can agree.

[hotlap]

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[Z OH 6]

Originally Posted by Future1LEa10

Funny story I too have owned a few of these cars. 2 2017 392 SCAT challengers and a 2017 Charger Daytona 392, none of which ate anything in their engines. All three had very rough lives in my hands. I dont baby my cars and none of them drank a drop of oil nor did they have any mechanical failures of any kind. During that period of time I was also an active member of a few Challenger/Charger forums. This wasnt "well documented" on any of them. Still isnt.

Now if you want to talk about whining rear end gears and Dodge's inability to correct them, then we can agree.

This. Whining rear end gears are very common. Thankfully it's not obnoxious just noticeable.

[Z OH 6]

Originally Posted by hotlap

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5.7L is not a 392. Even then, it's not common. That's like saying all LT4s are garbage because of the oil pumps.

[gtfoxy]

Originally Posted by Z OH 6

What does that story have to do with the number on the side of the car? You do realize that someone that buys a Scatpack doesn't have anything to do with their credit score right? You can buy a Hellcat or a ZL1 with bad credit, it will just cost you more due to a higher interest rate. I know plenty of people that own Scatpacks and none of them have bad credit.

This joke was just stupid as Hell and makes no sense.

It’s funny cause it’s true.

In my prior life as a salesman for a Ford dealership you’d be shocked how many people that came in the the Hecker Whores down the road steam rolled into crazy terms that had God-Awful credit. I mean so bad Ford wouldn’t touch them with your tuna poker.

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by Z OH 6

5.7L is not a 392. Even then, it's not common. That's like saying all LT4s are garbage because of the oil pumps.

I don’t have an opinion one way or the other. A simple google hit it though

A few common causes of 6.4 HEMI engine tick include:

• Faulty lifters
• Seized lifter rollers

A few other minor things may lead to ticking on the Dodge 392 HEMI V8. However, our primary focus is on the above two bullets. This is also a common issue on the 5.7 HEMI. Lifter or lifter roller problems may be partially attributed to the multi-displacement system. It may not be the only cause, but it does make some sense. Lifter problems on the 6.4 HEMI likely boil down to poor oil flow over the lifter rollers which causes them to seize. Once this occurs, the lifter contacts the cam lobes and produces an audible engine ticking noise.

Of course, metal on metal contact also results in shavings of metal entering the engine oil. Usually the oil filter will catch most of this metal if the 392 HEMI lifter problems are caught quickly. If left too long it’s possible for further engine damage to occur.
https://tuningpro.co/the-4-most-comm...gine-problems/

[gtfoxy]

Originally Posted by hotlap

I don’t have an option one way or the other. A simple google hit it though

Their reverse top-end oiling is the engineering equivalent of wearing your underwear on the outside of your pants when you’re not Super Man.

[Future1LEa10]

Originally Posted by Z OH 6

5.7L is not a 392. Even then, it's not common. That's like saying all LT4s are garbage because of the oil pumps.

LOL I was going to post that as well but you beat me to it. The 392 is awesome.

[Z OH 6]

Originally Posted by gtfoxy

It’s funny cause it’s true.

In my prior life as a salesman for a Ford dealership you’d be shocked how many people that came in the the Hecker Whores down the road steam rolled into crazy terms that had God-Awful credit. I mean so bad Ford wouldn’t touch them with your tuna poker.

But its not true. There are plenty of people with bad credit that buy all types of vehicles and there are plenty of people with good credit that buy Scatpacks. Its just nonsense.

[Z OH 6]

Originally Posted by hotlap

I don’t have an option one way or the other. A simple google hit it though

Not picking on you man, but if you read that page it clearly states:

The unlucky few who run into lifter roller failures typically notice issues around 80,000 to 120,000 miles. The below video is mostly in reference to the 5.7 HEMI, but it’s a good resource for more information on FCA 6.4 ticking and lifter rollers.



That right there is stating its a pretty rare issue. "unlucky few" and even then at 80k-120K miles, and mostly in reference to the 5.7L. By the time you read through all that, its pretty uncommon.

[gtfoxy]

Originally Posted by Z OH 6

But its not true. There are plenty of people with bad credit that buy all types of vehicles and there are plenty of people with good credit that buy Scatpacks. Its just nonsense.

Soooo, you’ve worked for nearly 15 years in the dealer industry? Cause I did.

I’m telling you flat out FCA’s business model, even more so in the last 10 years, is built primarily around high-risk loan structures. It’s simply reality. Choose to ignore/disbelieve if you want, but it’s still reality.

Like I said, it’s funny cause it’s true.

[pauly1119]

Originally Posted by Z OH 6

Not picking on you man, but if you read that page it clearly states:

The unlucky few who run into lifter roller failures typically notice issues around 80,000 to 120,000 miles. The below video is mostly in reference to the 5.7 HEMI, but it’s a good resource for more information on FCA 6.4 ticking and lifter rollers.



That right there is stating its a pretty rare issue. "unlucky few" and even then at 80k-120K miles, and mostly in reference to the 5.7L. By the time you read through all that, its pretty uncommon.

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by Future1LEa10

LOL I was going to post that as well but you beat me to it. The 392 is awesome.

See header and bold in #34

[Z OH 6]

Originally Posted by gtfoxy

Soooo, you’ve worked for nearly 15 years in the dealer industry? Cause I did.

I’m telling you flat out FCA’s business model, even more so in the last 10 years, is built primarily around high-risk loan structures. It’s simply reality. Choose to ignore/disbelieve if you want, but it’s still reality.

Like I said, it’s funny cause it’s true.

And you're the only one that's ever worked in the car business. Maybe it was just your area. Dodge must be having so much success because of their high risk loan structures and not because they actually build a good product. GTFO.