[V8 Firebird]

Yep, if GM wants Camaro die again, they already kill it. They wouldn't keep Malibu in future.

Caddy's CT4, CT5 are still in the way. GM doesn't stop those Caddy's sedan replacements.

If Camaro is killed, can many people afford that GM only sport car, mid-engine Corvette? I always wonder that question. Plus, Camaro isn't only sold in America, GM has sold it in worldwide.

American just more prefer SUVs and trucks, so even Mustang sale is going down.

However, for me, I prefer Camaro having refresh and don't see it like Challenger noting any changing.

[rontammy0]

Here you go..not good.
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/autos/news...018/ar-BBRLL1I

[hotlap]

Some visual aids

[karmatourer]

Originally Posted by ChickenPoop

Ok. If you believe that I got a bridge from Arizona to New Mexico over the gulf I'll sell ya. Don't believe shit you hear and only half of what you see.

Do you have the internet in Ga.? Or are you one of those who...……….doesn't believe anything? Do you trust ANYBODY?

[lawguy85]

Originally Posted by hotlap

Some visual aids

So Camaro gained market share in 2016 and 2017 with the 6th Gen, then took a nosedive this year. What happened in April??

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by lawguy85

So Camaro gained market share in 2016 and 2017 with the 6th Gen, then took a nosedive this year. What happened in April??

What happened in January and February?

[lawguy85]

Originally Posted by hotlap

What happened in January and February?

Winter (record setting), then sales were the same as previous years for the next couple of months (likely people grabbing last ‘18s) while sales fell off the cliff Q4, when ‘19s hit.

For months apologist said “we’ll see when Q4 sales hit”, now after a 22% drop, crickets. After the Mustang usurped it on C&D’s 10 Best where Camaro sat since 2016, with aesthetics being a listed reason, nothing but excuses. Can’t wait to hear the next one. ::

[Orangeman13]

So will the Camaro be killed?

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by lawguy85

Winter (record setting), then sales were the same as previous years for the next couple of months (likely people grabbing last ‘18s) while sales fell off the cliff Q4, when ‘19s hit.

For months apologist said “we’ll see when Q4 sales hit”, now after a 22% drop, crickets. After the Mustang usurped it on C&D’s 10 Best where Camaro sat since 2016, with aesthetics being a listed reason, nothing but excuses. Can’t wait to hear the next one. ::

Actually, sales were bad all year with biggest year over year drop happening in the spring and fall. Delivery of the 19s began in the beginning of October but I’m sure plenty of 18s were (are) available.

Do you think there is an overall problem at this point?

[shaffe]

Originally Posted by Orangeman13

So will the Camaro be killed?

No not yet. Camaro is necessary for the CT5. They need to the volume at the plant and Camaro is where the volume is at.

Originally Posted by hotlap

Actually, sales were bad all year with biggest year over year drop happening in the spring and fall. Delivery of the 19s began in the beginning of October but I’m sure plenty of 18s were (are) available.

Do you think there is an overall problem at this point?

Yes I do believe there is a problem. Yes Mustang and Challenger have more fleet sales but even if 25% of mustang sales were fleet, it still outsold the Camaro. I know they wanted to cut down on fleet sales, but I just don't see how when you have a superior product than the one it replaced, best in the class, universally loved by every auto publication has third place sales numbers, and is on downward trend faster than it's rivals and one of its rivals is on a 10 year old platform. Now is it all doom and gloom, no but I think internally they are not happy. Not panicking but not happy