[oneredry]

Originally Posted by kwav8r

Congrats on the 1K posts.

Do you have a picture of the mounting bracket on your thermostat bolt? Would love to see that.

I exchanged messages with EE as well on the bracket. I modified mine (ground down an edge to get more 'play' in the swiveling the can) to *just* fit between the cylinder head covers and condenser (?) line under the hood.

I have some pictured in my profile if you want to take a look. probeby to much to post here.
https://www.camaro6.com/forums/member.php?u=87996

[waterman]

Originally Posted by oneredry

I have some pictured in my profile if you want to take a look. probeby to much to post here.
https://www.camaro6.com/forums/member.php?u=87996

Nice work. Subscribed for CC bracket positioning.

[waterman]

Originally Posted by kwav8r

Wish that Elite would come up with a mounting bracket like yours for the ZL1. Would rather have it on the front of the motor vs. sitting over the top of the exhaust manifold.

+1

[oneredry]

here is an ok shot of where the "L" bracket is located.

[waterman]

Originally Posted by oneredry

here is an ok shot of where the "L" bracket is located.

Thanks!

Is that an Elite bracket or did you fabricate it?

[EDFHOBBIES]

The Magnusson SS setup is not like the ZL1, the valley plate PCV is not vented into the bottom of the blower.. Its angled and comes with a line that's longer to connect to the valley cover to behind the TB..

50 bucks or more of the zl1 system is the PCV adapter that doesn't have the hole in the shaft that's letting the oil go up in to the blower from that nipple on top of the valley cover.


I get the oil catch part but what have you done or should be done especially modified cars making more boost that pressure has to go some where..

If its a closed system great but now that I've add 3 lbs more of boost or the people running bigger blowers are they running a catch can sytstem with a breather..

And yes the MM can are not just nipples they have one valves in them and when you shut off your motor you can see it vent oil fumes. At least I did on my 5th gen. but I was running a draft system on it. I was venting pressure and catching oil.

[Elite Engineering]

Yes, you never want to vent. vent/Draft is technology first used at the beginning of the automobile and was little changed until the mid 1960's when the PCV system was mandated Federally to reduce ground water pollution from the dirty oil dripping from cars. What was an unintended result was these same engines, using same oils, were now lasting 2-3 times as long as before proper crankcase evacuation and it took a few years for the industry to discover the PCV system was also removing the damage and wear causing compounds that enter all engines as blow-by before it could settle and mix with the oil, so the main cause of wear and failure was "accidentally" discovered.


The E2 and E2-X series Catch Cans provides full time evacuation using 2 separate crankcase evacuation suction sources so there is no comparison of the 2. Then we look at the effectiveness to separate and trap the damaging compounds not allowing them to be pulled through and still ingested. The patented internal design of the E2-X is approximately 95% efficient at stopping these VS app 30% with the other (anyone can conduct the test to see this in person), so if your goal is to stop the offending compounds from being ingested, there is also no comparison as the difference is huge. We pull suction on the crankcase with the dual valve systems full time so pressure cannot build in the first place (unless a breach in the piston/ring/cylinder seal is present)


Finally, we maintain an emissions compliant closed system as regulations require for highway use (except NOT CARB cert for CA yet), so you have antiquated and ineffective separation vs the most effective on the market period. Not a claim we make lightly as many independent people have tested and validated themselves.

[EDFHOBBIES]

Originally Posted by Elite Engineering

Yes, you never want to vent. vent/Draft is technology first used at the beginning of the automobile and was little changed until the mid 1960's when the PCV system was mandated Federally to reduce ground water pollution from the dirty oil dripping from cars. What was an unintended result was these same engines, using same oils, were now lasting 2-3 times as long as before proper crankcase evacuation and it took a few years for the industry to discover the PCV system was also removing the damage and wear causing compounds that enter all engines as blow-by before it could settle and mix with the oil, so the main cause of wear and failure was "accidentally" discovered.


The E2 and E2-X series Catch Cans provides full time evacuation using 2 separate crankcase evacuation suction sources so there is no comparison of the 2. Then we look at the effectiveness to separate and trap the damaging compounds not allowing them to be pulled through and still ingested. The patented internal design of the E2-X is approximately 95% efficient at stopping these VS app 30% with the other (anyone can conduct the test to see this in person), so if your goal is to stop the offending compounds from being ingested, there is also no comparison as the difference is huge. We pull suction on the crankcase with the dual valve systems full time so pressure cannot build in the first place (unless a breach in the piston/ring/cylinder seal is present)


Finally, we maintain an emissions compliant closed system as regulations require for highway use (except NOT CARB cert for CA yet), so you have antiquated and ineffective separation vs the most effective on the market period. Not a claim we make lightly as many independent people have tested and validated themselves.

I'm not with in regulations I run headers no cats LOL..

I'm not sure what to get your or MMS.. According to his description when you make more boost his can vent yours is closed..

That makes me think I would need to use some type of breather and your system vs his can that can vent so I don't have a bunch leaks like on my 5th gen when I had a closed system and a blower. When I went Twin turbo and pulled the motor I had little leaks every where so I made sure on the Twin setup when I got the 416 built I got a can that vented never had an oil leak again of any porting and I was running a lot more boost w the turbos.

Is this true or not.. No one is doubting you can catches oil but what about modded cars making more boost?

How can you get rid of the pressure build up from a 650 flywheel car to a car now w 800 rwhp car?

[oneredry]

Originally Posted by waterman

Thanks!

Is that an Elite bracket or did you fabricate it?

That's the one they provided me. They supplied me with the "L" bracket and a flat bracket as an option. For me, this was the most feasible.

[Ricco]

Originally Posted by EDFHOBBIES

I'm not with in regulations I run headers no cats LOL..

I'm not sure what to get your or MMS.. According to his description when you make more boost his can vent yours is closed..

That makes me think I would need to use some type of breather and your system vs his can that can vent so I don't have a bunch leaks like on my 5th gen when I had a closed system and a blower. When I went Twin turbo and pulled the motor I had little leaks every where so I made sure on the Twin setup when I got the 416 built I got a can that vented never had an oil leak again of any porting and I was running a lot more boost w the turbos.

Is this true or not.. No one is doubting you can catches oil but what about modded cars making more boost?

How can you get rid of the pressure build up from a 650 flywheel car to a car now w 800 rwhp car?

Dude you are clearly struggling to understand how a closed PCV system works. It's closed in so much as it does not vent to atmosphere; Not closed in so much as it allows pressure to build in the crankcase. In fact, a good closed system will introduce negative pressure to the crankcase (hence the vacuum comments in my previous numerous posts) which aides in ventilation. A system that vents to atmosphere could potentially lead to crankcase pressure build up since it is drawing less (maybe none) vacuum..

[kwav8r]

Simply put, more boost = more vacuum.

[waterman]

Originally Posted by oneredry

That's the one they provided me. They supplied me with the "L" bracket and a flat bracket as an option. For me, this was the most feasible.

Thanks again.

[Biscuit.fr]

Originally Posted by Akura

Hello,

Just a single question: is this model the one who fits better for our cars?

Dual valve 2017+ Camaro LT4 ZL1

...from the list "Select Your Vehicle".

http://www.eliteengineeringusa.com/e2-x-catch-cans/

Thank you!

another question :
It doesn't say can only or kit?
just Camaro LT4 ZL1
does it come with everything?
What is check valve? (included in the kit, not in the can only)
Tx

[EDFHOBBIES]

I emailed MMS I'm going w a better setup.. closed is good but just as thought both are closed but one can relieve pressure. .

my systems of course can operate closed loop. 99% of what i sell operates this way (i sell cans lots of functions depending on what the customer comes wanting and needing)

BUT my draft and pcv models *what a funny name 'pcv' for a can that is said not able to run a pcv system?? lol!** run in both closed and open loop depending on crankcase pressure.* opens when needed and closed otherwise.* these models are what come in my 'mild' and 'wild' complete kits.


this pressure equalizing availability is maximum effectiveness for crank flow stability, and the way my product works is unique to the industry, up to 1500hp capacity per can.


elite blatantly copied my lt4 pcv adapter and even used still clips from that z06 video posted in their own instructions (until i made them remove them).

i had a correct setup for the lt4 available almost a year before they did, and that is even with them copying my part.. so you tell me who is 'leading' the technology.


anyhow i have some history with them and the 'tracy lewis' conglomerate, do their catch cans work good for stock oil catching* YES just as good as mine actually. do they work good for high airflow control NO.* many reasons why.

https://youtu.be/Jl70sRRpibk