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Old 02-16-2016, 07:10 PM   #29
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I really hope it comes in under $43K...excluding NAV and PDR.
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Old 02-16-2016, 07:11 PM   #30
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Very true, even at $6K it is a steal. Even the base GT350 at $48K plus doesn't include all the cooling etc and goes limp after 20 minutes on the track. In comparison, this is an amazing deal!
Plus the GT350 has a $1300~ gas guzzler tax that everyone forgets about...
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Old 02-16-2016, 07:12 PM   #31
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That is the price paired with Navi. It would make sense to do that on the 1LE as well from a profit standpoint.
The PDR is tied directly to the GPS/Navigation unit and is more than just an in car camera system. It can be combined with Cosworth telemetry software to show an overhead view of the track you are using and your speed at any place on the track. The on board camera and GPS work hand in hand. I think it would be hard to separate the two. At $1795 on Corvettes it is a pricey option but if you track your car it is pretty cool and helpful tool.

http://www.chevrolet.com/content/dam...ence_Guide.pdf

I am going to stick with my guess of $4800.00 for the 1LE package.
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Old 02-16-2016, 08:02 PM   #32
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Plus the GT350 has a $1300~ gas guzzler tax that everyone forgets about...
And Ford doesn't include destination in their MSRP.
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Old 02-16-2016, 08:14 PM   #33
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Plus the GT350 has a $1300~ gas guzzler tax that everyone forgets about...
HAHAHA I know, every time I include that I almost feel bad.
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The PDR is tied directly to the GPS/Navigation unit and is more than just an in car camera system. It can be combined with Cosworth telemetry software to show an overhead view of the track you are using and your speed at any place on the track. The on board camera and GPS work hand in hand. I think it would be hard to separate the two. At $1795 on Corvettes it is a pricey option but if you track your car it is pretty cool and helpful tool.

http://www.chevrolet.com/content/dam...ence_Guide.pdf

I am going to stick with my guess of $4800.00 for the 1LE package.
Thanks for the detailed info on the PDR, Jedi. I had no knowledge of the technical connection of the two aspects of the unit. I viewed it more as a track camera and navigation bundled as a package.
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Old 02-16-2016, 08:51 PM   #35
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Well equipped gen5 1LE is $46 - $47k. Gen 6 is going to be well over $50k easy.
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Old 02-16-2016, 09:01 PM   #36
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Well the 5th gen 1LE was $5500 with Recaros. And extra for NPP. So this isn't much of a surprise.
You bring up an interesting point. If you add up the 2015 1LE package along with the NPP exhaust and Recaro seats, the total comes to $6,390. Is Al O. considering this total when he says the 2017 will "not be a lot higher" than the 2015? If so, you could be looking at a $7,000 package.
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Old 02-16-2016, 09:03 PM   #37
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Not a big shock. So much for rumors of a sub $40k 1LE. GMA seems to think it will be under $5k which I still think is a steal. I'm a buyer at less than $42k with PDR. If it's over that I'm stepping up to a 2SS and just going to go load that up. And the "not a lot higher" is very encouraging.

http://gmauthority.com/blog/2016/02/...th-generation/

When asked if there was a ballpark range in regards to 2017 Camaro 1LE pricing, Oppenheiser responded with, “It’s not going to mirror the fifth-gen, the fifth-gen was frankly a steal. It was $3,500 as an option. It was an incredible value, more than I wanted,” and finished his thought with a chuckle.

“Because of the level of technology offered in the sixth-generation, and that we’ve elevated the performance in this new 1LE, the price is going to be higher. Not a lot higher, we want to sell a lot of them, but you can expect it to be a little higher than the fifth-gen,” he added.



I think the original goal of the $40,000 1LE was when they were benchmarking to build upon the 5th Gen 1LE.... this all changed when Ford released the Shelby 350.

I think at that point, Al and his team decided to go alot further with the package, I believe thats when they decided to include the eLSD and MRC to counterpunch the Shelby track abilities.

I think this package would still be a huge value at $5-$6k. We're talking about performance handling components that would cost you over $10k if bought individually.... I would say the lightweight forged wheels alone would cost about $3-$4k...

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Well equipped gen5 1LE is $46 - $47k. Gen 6 is going to be well over $50k easy.
That would mean the 1LE package would be over $12,000. Remember, the 1LE can only be had on 1SS models for 2017 (not including the V6), which starts at $37,295.
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Old 02-16-2016, 09:20 PM   #39
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Well equipped gen5 1LE is $46 - $47k. Gen 6 is going to be well over $50k easy.
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That would mean the 1LE package would be over $12,000. Remember, the 1LE can only be had on 1SS models for 2017 (not including the V6), which starts at $37,295.


Only available on 1SS...and everything that made the 5th gen 1LE "well-equipped"...is included standard (like Recaro seats).

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I would say the lightweight forged wheels alone would cost about 3-4k...
You would be right...the black 5th-gen wheels retailed for nearly $1000 a piece.
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Old 02-16-2016, 10:04 PM   #40
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5-6k tops.
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Old 02-16-2016, 10:26 PM   #41
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Well equipped gen5 1LE is $46 - $47k. Gen 6 is going to be well over $50k easy.
Im with this guy.

The 16 1LE has standard everything you could add to a 15 1LE plus much more. The Recaros and NPP were addition options on the 2015 on top of the cost of the 1LE pkg, the 15 also didnt have upgraded brakes let alone MRC. The reality is if this car were any less than upper $40's, it would in fact be a price decrease over the 2015.

If you simply added only MRC, 6 piston brakes and npp, thats $5765 in options, bringing a regular 1SS to $42,065 with no other options. Then factor in all the 1LE stuff like the seats, hud, suspension, e diff, wheels and more costly tires, all the microsuede accents ect and I dont see how it could be cheaper than a very well optioned 2SS.

GM is not making any apologies for the 6th gen costing more than the Mustangs and a full history of 5th gen sales showing people are not at all afraid of $50k+ Camaros. Their target was a $48-50k GT350, and said the 1LE will smoke it. Given the Camaros current pricing structure I doubt it will be cheaper than a GT350.
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Old 02-16-2016, 10:35 PM   #42
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The thing with the 1LE is that GM priced it too low last time. Not everyone is a track buyer, and they fielded an awful lot of complaints about casual ride quality in a car that is specifically designed to have a stiff, track-oriented suspension. For people who really want to track it, GM should raise the price enough to separate those who just want a car with a different option (the "top dog" buyers who can't swing a higher trim) and those who are committed to track handling. For the same reason Lamborghini owners don't complain about seating for 7, Camaro 1LE owners shouldn't be complaining about ride quality.

It's frustrating because I'm the last guy to advocate a price increase, but it's the only way to separate those who want a road yacht and a racecar.
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